A long time has passed since the last major release of the X.Org X11 Xserver. Even bugfix releases have become rare. Therefore, this Change proposes replacing the nearly unmaintained upstream with a maintained fork, the X11Libre XServer.
The upstream maintainer of X11Libre had been the most active remaining contributor to the X.Org X11 Xserver before the fork. The Change Owner is well aware of the controversies around the X11Libre upstream maintainer (FreeDesktop.org CoC violations, controversial political views, conspiracy theories, rants against Red Hat), but believes that the benefit of shipping maintained software outweighs the potential annoyances when having to deal with upstream.
There is no intent to ever replace the Xwayland implementation, only the standalone Xserver and its subpackages (Xnest, Xvfb, Xephyr), and possibly the driver packages (xorg-x11-drv-*).
Do note, literally anyone can submit a change proposal to Fedora. This shouldn’t affect your view of the project.
Fair, but the person who submitted this isn’t just a random user, they’re flaired as part of the packaging team
They’ve apparently been involved in Fedora since at least 2007 and the list of packages they maintain includes QT, so sure this isn’t some rando. Still, I doubt the backing of a low level contributor to the project will mean this proposal goes anywhere, especially the idea of replacing X11 outright when downstream packages like KDE (ironic) have indicated they won’t support it.
Makes sense
Fedora is owned by Red Hat which was acquired by IBM
Red Hat: “Time to cash out”
The truth is…thegameproject was rigged from the start
I don’t use Fedora I use Arch btw, but in all seriousness please don’t.
You’ll become the laughingstock of the century.
I think this is an effort by Fedora to deprecate X11 without pissing off a large chunk of their userbase by announcing deprication by fiat, as other distributions and projects are.
If XLibre is mostly one guy, who has demonstrated alarming gaps in his understanding of C, and who has a history of pushing regressions, the X on Fedora will become unstable and people will voluntarily switch to Wayland. Between those and people who will switch out of protest because of the maintainer’s politics, eventually there’ll be so few X users Fedora can say, “see? Nobody’s using X, so we’re going to deprecate it.”
It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it’s easier to believe than that Fedora’s leadership is choosing to depend on an essentially one-man-fork with QC issues and a maintainer who keeps his controversial politics up front in the project README, before any other technical information.
I mean, people still defend Rowling’s work, and use Hyprland, so this shouldn’t surprise me, but somehow, it still does…
Oh no. What’s wrong with Hyprland? 😭
Needless harassment against their own trans community member and overall consistent toxic behavior:
Hyprland BANNED from FreeDesktop: Why.Goddammit, why can’t we have nice things anymore. 😞 Why do people have to be dicks.
The grown-ups that run Fedora and the community are overwhelmingly against this very bad proposal, so I don’t think the reich-wing creep’s toy project is going to replace the official XServer implementation any time soon.
But my shiney!!
