• naturalgasbad@lemmy.caOP
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    9 months ago

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    The eight against:

    • Australia
    • Canada
    • Israel
    • Lithuania
    • New Zealand
    • Ukraine
    • United Kingdom
    • United States
  • Bye@lemmy.world
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    That’s idiotic. The alternative is to bomb them.

    You aren’t going to stop strong countries from exerting their will on weaker countries; that’s the entire reason to be a stronger country in the first place.

    Having economic sanctions as a blow-off-valve against war is a good thing, pragmatically.

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    That’s stupid.

    China considers itself a developing country and weaponises its economy against countries all the time.

    Not to mention it’s one of the few strong non-violent actions a state can use to fight for itself.

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      9 months ago

      Developing countries commonly adopt protectionist policies or nationalize critical industries to avoid getting outcompeted by big multinationals. Just because globalism is good for the colonial elite does not make it desirable for everyone else.

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        China is not a developing country, no matter what they want to claim. And are you honestly saying one of the world’s largest economies and capitalist countries isn’t the global elite, pfft.

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    I don’t really understand, what measures are okay to use? We certainly want to be coercing developing countries to respect rule of law, have free and fair elections, not committing human rights violations, and economic measures seem to be the most effective, nonviolent way to achieve the desired changes. Is the change just that multiple countries must now agree to a sanctioning action, rather than allowing just one country to impose sanctions? If so, certainly understandable why the superpowers dissented.

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      no State may use or encourage the use of unilateral economic, political or any other type of measures to coerce another State in order to obtain from it the subordination of the exercise of its sovereign rights”

      Nope, it’s just stupid. Imagine saying it’s wrong to stop trading with a genocidal dictatorship because their economy is developing.

      The idea of people boycotting Apartheid South Africa was probably horrible to the U.N.

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        Bro nobody has ever stopped trade with countries with genocidal dictators. Some countries use that as a reason to stop trading when the trade becomes unfavorable for them, but thats never the real reason.

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    This isn’t the smartest idea. So no more economic sanctions?

    So basically if you want to exert pressure on a warmonger (looking at you Russia) your options are now:

    1: War 2: Beating them at soccer