• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    It’s so weird seeing people making poor interpretations of another ethnicity’s culture their entire identity. I wonder if there are weirdos in India rocking lederhosen or milkmaid outfits at random music festivals and ranting to strangers about Calvinism?

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      You should see some of the “American food” they sell in some parts of Europe and Asia. I feel like it’s pretty typical everywhere to misunderstand and exoticize other cultures.

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        I want to visit America one time just for the food. I keep hearing from American TV about twinkies and red vines and all kinds of stuff, then I try them whenever I get a chance here in the UK and theyre so bad. I need to know for sure whether we’re getting a version that conforms to our food laws and they lose a lot in the process or if theyre really that terrible.

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          I really doubt you’ll be impressed. Those foods are made for children, who have bland pallettes and like sugar. And adults who never advanced past this stage.

          You can get good food in America. But it won’t be a twinkie.

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          The UK food laws may be partially to blame. But American junk food has also degraded over the decades. A twinkie from the 30’s-70’s didn’t taste the same as a modern twinkie, with some unknown portion of its sugar replaced by HFCS. But at least sugar is still the first ingredient in a twinkie. Plenty of other iconic junk food has been engineered into nonsense and just rides on the fumes of its former glory.

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          I’ve traveled a lot for food, and, despite not living and never having lived in America, the US has the best “foreign” food I’ve ever had. The best Chinese food I ever had was in the US, for example. In fact, I think high (and high-ish) cuisine in the US is generally quite good (despite crazily sized portions WTF).

          I’ve had incredible Korean food in random towns (~20,000 pop.), incredible Indien in another (<50,000), etc.; I think the US is kinda special when it comes to foreign food like that.

          And, of course, there is some American-American food that is amazing. The greatest filet mignon I ever had was also in the US (and again, random small towns, not metropolitan cities). Also: donuts (not from chains) can be craaaaaazy good. Also cheesecake, though I actually prefer the German version of New York cheesecake (cheese cake is originally German, New York improved it, then Germany improved that).

          The problem is grocery store food. It all has 3x sugar and chemicals compared Europe. Literally everything, sometimes even organic stuff, tastes fake and disgustingly sweet. It drives me crazy, and is one of the top reasons I would never live in the US. I also dislike the espresso there: nearly all specialty coffee I’ve had in the US has either been extracted by untrained barista or has been a bad copy of faux-skandinavian roasts. I think that situation is better in larger cities though, which I’ve spent less time in.

          Ok, sorry for this very, very long ramble. Just some thoughts on American food from someone who didn’t grow up there but has tried a lot of it.

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            God fuck our coffee. I finally got an espresso machine somewhat recently just so I could have lattes like the ones I had in Europe. A good latte should not need sugar! Espresso should be yummy!

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          A lot of the stuff in those foods are banned outside of America, and for good reason. You’re getting the better version, such as it is.

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          If you want good American food, when you get here go to a Chinese restaurant.

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          Everybody in America seems to remember liking Twinkies as a kid but they’re nasty now. Debate continues over whether the twinkies changed, or we did.

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          They’re shitty junk food with nostalgia. As other’s have said, try our Chinese food. And our Mexican food. Also hit up an American restaurant here, especially a diner. Oh and wherever you go ask the locals about their local food and try it, (it’s not weird, we do it when we travel domestically) you’ve probably heard of stuff like Chicago deep dish and Philly cheeses teams, bur basically every city has something they cook good or unique and are super proud of, like Cincinnati has a style of chili they put on spaghetti.

          America’s best cuisine isn’t our mass produced mass market foods, its the stuff immigrants came up with to square their cuisine with the available foods and local tastes.

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            Southern food has entered the chat.

            In all seriousness, southern food is some of the best food the US has to offer IMO. There’s a shitton of diversity within the category and it has a lot of flavor and spice.

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        America and Japan have this as a special cultural relationship. Are the yankii cringe, obviously, but my little yank heart is warmed by seeing people look at aspects of American culture and asking someone to hold their vending machine Asahi. I hope they feel the same about weebs. The thing is we all just see each other as kinda cool and exotic and so we riff on each other’s shit.

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      The Japanese Elvis culture springs to mind.

      Also, there are “cowboys” everywhere in the world.

      You mentioned lederhosen and of course those types exist outside of Germany too.

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      Iirc, there is a vibe in India that Hitler was a great leader who should be emulated. Kind of like how someone might look to Alexander the Great for leadership tips or something.