We are just finding out about a child sex trafficking ring involving politicians and billionaires, the world’s richest man does a Nazi salute at a political rally, and the President being an adjudicated sex criminal is probably not the worst thing he has done…

Meanwhile I’m standing here in the checkout line feeling guilty about whether or not I should tip a barista

Something is wrong with our collective notion of morality, and my individual understanding (Oh well, here we are)

  • benni@lemmy.world
    271·
    25 days ago

    Are you really feeling guilty about not tipping because of the moral implications, or do you just feel socially shamed? Important distinction.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
      71·
      25 days ago

      Considering the idea of shame is society’s way to enforce it’s version of morality, I would argue no it is not a distinction.

      • zeca@lemmy.ml
        41·
        25 days ago

        Considering that drinking coffee is my prefered kind of laxative, i would argue theres actually no distinction between coffee and shit.

      • benni@lemmy.world
        3·
        24 days ago

        Like you said, society’s version of morality. So it can be a very important distinction because your own version of morality might differ. Not being aware of this distinction is dangerous because it stops people from developing their own moral compass. This own morality is more firm and can be relied on in the absence of shame, or even when society encourages behavior one finds immoral.

        I’m even gonna go on a wilder speculation here and claim that one of the driving factors behind humanity’s worst atrocities was that large portions of society who had the potential in them for a firm morality rooted in empathy and love never developed this potential.

        On a less import note, not being aware of this distinction can breed a lot of resentment and unhappiness, if someone is constantly compelled to follow rules that they, deep down, consider to be bullshit.

        Of course that doesn’t mean I encourage people to just disregard society’s version of morality and lightly assume that they know better.

        Edit: just noticed your username, I hope that furriosa is doing well <3

    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
      3·
      25 days ago

      For me it’s the empathy of knowing that that person won’t have enough money because I know they don’t get a living wage.

    • postcapitalism@lemmy.todayOPEnglish
      31·
      25 days ago

      I feel guilty because I’m conflicted about what the right thing to do is, the cost, and care about fellow workers.

      You probably understand why I would have a moral question (alongside some guilt of doing the wrong thing) after reading through the entire thread engaging your comment.

      Meanwhile Epstein, Elon, and Trump don’t seem to have these hang-up’s and are rewarded handsomely by society…