• abbotsbury@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Others have mentioned it, but to elaborate, Alcoholics Anonymous is not merely sitting in a circle and sharing your problems, but a belief system which requires you to submit to a higher power to move forward.

    • ϻеƌųʂɑ@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      Knew a guy who insisted he wasn’t addicted, but he can’t go a day without attending an AA meeting. 40 years, non stop. Even when in other countries for work, he finds them. Left his own daughters wedding dinner to make it to one.

      He runs his own chapter where he lives. He’s had people follow the steps, sure, but some don’t. No matter how successful the latter are, he tears them apart for “not doing it right” and has turned his back on them for not following how he did it.

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        7 months ago

        My favorite quote on fanaticism applies here:

        “Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim” - George Santayana

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        7 months ago

        I didn’t know you could be addicted to AA meetings. I guess alcohol is a gateway drug to AA meetings, lol.

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        Almost All… But yes in recent years AA has tried to distance itself from the higher power ( God) rhetoric.

        AA is somewhat decentralized, and you will have splinter groups.

        Also to clarify, 12 step is a process created by the founders of AA. It’s not a separate thing.

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          The process still involves relinquishing your will power and deferring to an higher/outside power. Incredibly cult like behavior. You should be raising a person’s will power. Hyping the hell out of them.

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            Oh I absolutely agree, the manipulation techniques used, are still the same ones religions use to control their congregations.