Russian garbage
The community is even worse if you’re wondering.
I mean Terraria and Factorio both took years if not a decade to hit 1.0
Talk about Star Citizen
As a player of both games, fuck both ‘betas’. Shit gets old waiting for ambitious games.
Came here to find this comment, glad I wasn’t disappointed lol.
But tbf you can’t really compare the scope of the two games, other than maps how much has EFT actually changed in that span of time?
Quite a bit, honestly as a regular player of the single-player mod, content and mechanic wise things have gotten way better.
It’s honestly the execution of matchmaking, server performance (or lack thereof), and certain balance choices holding the game back. Other than that it’s really solid, and if you mod, you can solve all 3 of those problems.
What is the situation with regards to cheaters like in this game?
Because of matchmaking and certain decisions the Devs have made (no post-raid review), it’s very hard to accurately report cheaters or verify if you got killed by one. Due to this, many people prefer playing PVE (so you can experience the current game content without meddling humans), or modded CO-OP/single player with a mod like SPT.
Considering that the cheapest copy of the game is 30-40 USD, and SPT only requires ownership (no “edition” needed), I’d say that entry price is worth it.
I can’t understand how this game is fun for people sometimes XD
Conceptually?
It is a looter shooter (a shlooter, if you will) cranked up to 11. Since now you need to actually be vulnerable while you spend time sorting through the loot pinata you just shot rather than holding a button to vacuum up all the purples and oranges.
And when you get into an actual gunfight with someone, it genuinely feels like you are in a big budget “prestige” action film as you play cat and mouse, barely miss someone, take a shot to your chest plate, and are frantically trying to wrap a bandage around your arm while listening for footsteps or, even worse, a grenade.
Then you add the humans into the mess and it all goes to shit. Because now? They know where everything that matters for progression is on a map and just camp it. There is no gunfight because they are just aiming at where you head will be when you bend down to get the key you need to unlock a vendor.
So then you need to watch a bunch of videos online to learn where the popular camping spots are for every extraction and objective. Which means THEY need to watch videos to learn where to hide to camp those anti-camping spots and so forth. And, because Tarkov is so hardcore, nobody has any maps or compasses and you need to memorize the layout of every single map visually.
And if you DO luck out and actually get one of those gunfights? Yeah… the other person has been playing the game for 90 hours a week and has L5 body armor that you literally can’t penetrate without half a mag. And they have thermal scopes and armor piercing rounds that shred through your plate carrier instantly.
And that assumes they aren’t just hacking where you get the telltale sound of a burst going from between the center of your head to just above it as your body falls before the audio shuts off.
All that said: Tarkov with the SPTarkov mod is actually fucking amazing. Although you still have the problem of needing to memorize maps because paper maps cost a lot of money and take up slots because The Failed State That Is Totally Ukraine doesn’t have photocopiers or even scraps of paper to jot down landmarks on while staring at one of the few maps in The Legally Distinct And Much Less Interesting Zone.
Another fun tarkov-ism. Because the game is so realistic, you have no idea if you are injured unless you bring up your inventory screen or have suffered a catastrophic injury. So you basically have to bring up the inventory screen any time you hop off a ledge or go through the bushes in case you broke your leg or got snagged on some barbed wire and need to apply a tourniquet.
I’m not saying that it’s not fun because the core mechanic is interesting. But this implementation is just not ok for most people.
It’s an interesting game and it has some good ideas, but it’s incredibly janky. I’ve seen single devs develop games in less than a year that have better animations.
But despite it’s rather dated look and it’s clunky controls it does have a very large map and a large play account per map. That’s quite attractive to some people.
Although personally I suspect people are going to come up with a better version of the game in battlefield via portal.
shlooter if you will
I will not :)
I’ve been reading a lot of comments that make it sound like portal is a new thing, but it was in 2042 too and was incredibly underwhelming. Did something new happen with it that I don’t know about?
They got a forge like level editor this time around
Although personally I suspect people are going to come up with a better version of the game in battlefield via portal.
every year they come out with a game to dethrone tarkov, and every year the game to dethrone tarkov flops while tarkov keeps going strong, lol.
Well this would be a mod not a game so it doesn’t have to be hugely successful.
It would probably be cheaper and easier to buy the cheapest copy of EFT and mod it with SPT and FIKA co-op compared to paying full price for battlefield and having to mod that INTO tarkov.
Did they ever end up enabling Linux support?
Nah, BSG hates linux. The Single Player Tarkov mod has a guide for it though.
Didn’t even know that’s a thing. I definitely wouldn’t buy it just for that though
Nikitia (the CEO) said that Linux support will be looked into in the future but 1.0 is the current priority.
We’ve heard promises like that in the past and its almost never come to fruition. So, I doubt that very much.
He didn’t promise anything; he said they would “look into it”.
No, but I was actually able to play some solo on Linux when I tested it, and the single player mod SPT works on Linux
I don’t believe online PVP works though
Isn’t Fortnite still in beta or something?
It’s the corporate way of saying “we’re too lazy/cheap to fix any bug, so please lower your standards.”
I thought Fortnite originally stayed in beta so that they could ship updates to consoles with fewer hurdles. nowadays I have no idea if that’s still a thing
I would say that most of the “legacy” live games are. Warframe is to the point that the developers, Digital Extremes, outright make fun of it being a 13 year old beta and jokes about what Soulframe counts as these days.
And a lot of it is because they launched into beta/early access/whatever before there was even a model for what that means.
Contrast that with the “newer” games like tarkov that assign milestones to leaving beta. Well, it used to be that leaving beta meant that tarkov would go to Steam but now it mostly is just being done so they can keep releasing expansions/modes without needing to put it in the deluxe preorder edition.
Super hyped for 1.0, been playing for about 2 years now 1.4kish hours and its just gets more fun with every update. Can’t wait to actually be able to escape. Perfect game if you want an FPS that doesn’t require turbo fast uber accurate wrist breaking flick shots. Hell chilling in one place for 5-10 is a smart strategy sometimes.
Really looking forward to getting back into this. I keep trying these fast past multiplayer shooters and I generally get wrecked. Picked up EFT a few years ago and really enjoyed. Do you have any advice on finding groups to play with? I’m sure their discord has a LFG channel most likely.
Honestly a good way I found is with small streamers on twitch. Find someone who looks cool and say hi, most of the community is nice and if you ask for help on quests or if they play with viewers a good amount will say yes. This leads to getting into smaller discords with generally pretty cool people in them. Some of my recommendations are MortakkW, WhosJason, and McHayla. All pretty good people. All different vibes.
I can’t speak to those streamers in particular but Anissem (and whoever else) should understand that milsims inherently attract chuds. And Tarkov above and beyond because nikita and BSG are… very very very pro-russia.
Not saying that everyone who plays tarkov is a fascy chud. But if you are looking for a community to hang out in, maybe listen for some dog whistles.
Which is why I wish Incursion Red River had taken off more. Set in fantasy war that never ended Vietnam so it is borderline The Last Jedi in that chuds just can’t talk about it without spewing hatred and bigotry. Whereas it is a lot harder to tell if someone is just a gun nut masturbating over an AK or if they are making it clear they think Ukraine should be a breeding farm for putin.
Kind of off topic, but one of the most popular modders for SPT, SolarInt (who created the massive AI overhaul SAIN), is actually hired by the team behind Incursion Red River to upgrade their enemy AI behavior!
Apparently he called BSG and never heard anything back - their loss XD
Did they ever solve all the hacking issues? Apparently it was impossible to get in a match without at least a couple cheaters everytime
Yeah the player base did, by creating a mod that lets you have a better experience without them - Single Player Tarkov (SPT)!
XD
And SIT is also a thing. Haven’t run it in a while, but it was fun with friends playing alone on your own server.
SIT has been discontinued, but Project Fika is the currently active branch for co-op play. I just haven’t used it recently since the headless option is a pain to set up.
Damn, is Fika easier than SIT to get running? SIT was a pain in the ass to get going.
Much easier. It’s only difficult if you want to set up your own dedicated server (so the load is moved off of your gaming PC)
I host all of our groups stuff on my dedicated server, but I looked over the info last night and it spells it out really easily for headless. SIT didn’t do anything in the way of helping so this should be pretty straightforward.
Maybe it’s my particular setup - I use Pterodactyl Panel to manage docker environments - but I remember repeatedly banging my head against the proverbial wall trying to get it to work, quitting after 3 days.
They spent the past month or two making this a wipe for ultra sweaties (Flea Market doesn’t unlock until level 80 or some nonsense) so that only the most diehard of fans are playing and they refuse to accept that the game they spend 90 hours a week watching other people play has problems.
There is no limit to the stretching that can be done. There are many games stretching farther. I don’t think we have seen the limit yet.
The limit is when people stop rewarding this behaviour by giving them money. So yeah no sign of hitting it.
Star citizen
Star citizen isn’t an example of an open beta that got stretched out. It’s an example of a scam.
A game of similar scope to star citizen is starship simulator, except that isn’t a scam and, oh look, it’s making surprisingly better progress (there still isn’t anything to actually do in it yet but it’s much further along in much shorter period of time). You can tell it isn’t a scam because people aren’t being asked to pay extra to access some more unfinished content.
russian 🤮 game
Genuinely forgot this game existed. I was over it before COVID lockdowns.
GZW is better. Fight me.
GZW has a much less compelling setting and world building for me at least.
Did they fix the whole Unheard Edition issue or nah?
No, they just scammed the people that bought the previously most expensive version that was supposed to include all future DLC’s. Well, BSG decided that they wanted more money and reneged on that, removing the version and putting up a new and even more expensive one…
I mean they made PVE a generic paid addon, but let’s keep it real, the only thing that fixed tarkov was modders, just like Bethesda’s games XD
If you own the game, get SPT, shit’s amazing.
