I think there should be a rule at this point an IP can only get one reboot every 15 years and it has to be won in a director competition because this is ridiculous! It feels surreal how many reboots and remakes they make and they are usually always for the worst.
So are you tired of them to?
Went to through the entire effort of making an arr pirate ship only to realize there is jack to watch, and I would rather just spend $12 to see a movie in theater once a year, since that’s about all I ever see something new worth watching.
As usual the most useful thing that has come out of it is just getting easy access to old and foreign media which otherwise impossible to access online anyway, so now my career of sailing the high seas turned into yet another media archive collection.
The real crime here is people paying cash money to see this slop in theater. I mean I guess $12-15 is not that much, but why not use that for a different movie or even a better form of entertainment? I feel like people settle for mediocre value way too much, or find it valuable enough despite some genuinely excellent alternatives to choose from.
I got tired of the movie industry in general. Just stopped going to the cinema and/or buying Blu-rays.
Ya but they’re gonna keep happening until it becomes financially riskier to do a reboot than a new IP. Reboots will have to consistently flop hard.
The oldest and most natural form of human storytelling is to take stories people are already familiar with and extend them or retell them in new ways… and copyright broke that form of storytelling, but we still have a thirst for it. So we get entertainment companies buying the right to exploit that thirst, for sums that make it too risky to entrust the outcome to actual artists.
I learned a while ago that I don’t have to go see things that don’t interest me. Once you accept this, a lot of the media made that you don’t like will bother you less.
Yes but you must acknowledge the crowding out effect. There are only so many screens. If so many are taken up by the never-ending sequel/adaptation/remake churn, that leaves precious little chance to actually see something original. If you’re a movie buff, I could see how that could become frustrating, even if you never watch any of the content you don’t like.
Can’t complain on the internet with a thought process like that, though. /s
I’m tired of people complaining about remakes and reboots. Original movies are released every week. If you care enough to complain, you should care enough to keep track of what movies are coming out and not rely on marketing to tell you what to see. Nobody is making you see remakes and reboots. Millions of people are seeing them so clearly, they are appealing to millions of people. If people would stop seeing them, Hollywood would stop making them.
Ah, but the production money doesn’t flow to many original movies, but almost always gets invested in existing franchises. The result is a bunch of original movies that would have been better if they’d had a bigger budget. Add to that the issue of marketing: no one is going to the film that doesn’t advertise, have guests on talk shows, and gets limited distribution. The big studios have contracts with the theaters and tiny films are frequently relegated to art houses.
Lastly, I don’t think it is fair to ask people to do homework on which movies to watch. I mean, I do that, but I’m a freak that way. Most people don’t have the time, and they aren’t looking for the next Citzen Cane, they’re looking for a light escape from a difficult week. Ideally, people would follow a critic that has tastes similar to their own, but in the fractured world of the internet, that gets hard. There are too many voices and they rotate in and out too often to figure out who’s currently matching your tastes.
People are ultimately choosing to see remakes and sequels. If it was really a huge problem for the majority of moviegoers, they’d go see original movies. Anyone who cares enough to complain should care enough to do research.
I might complain but the real result of studio shenanigans with a publicity is I rarely goto movies. If a movie is an expensive splurge, having to work at it is much less appealing
Actually now that my kids are off to college and I’m in a good spot financially, I did briefly consider becoming a regular moviegoer for the first time in my life. Too much work for the expected entertainment value though
Almost a third of Americans who could vote don’t – either by not registering at all or registering but not casting a ballot. Do you really think people who don’t have the time to vote – people with jobs and/or kids at home – want to “do research” for their down time? They aren’t ‘going’ anywhere. They flip on the boob tube and catch whatever has made it to cable/free-streaming. Then they are disappointed because they liked the first one and this new one is so bad by comparison.
I’m retired, so I do research, and while I’m not the one complaining, I DO sympathize with the complainers that don’t want to invest as much time as I do on inspecting the lineage of a film and what might make it worth viewing.
I’ve seen interesting remakes and sequels – like just this week I rewatched Fassbinder’s original The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant because I hadn’t yet seen Ozon’s remake, Peter von Kant, where the main characters reverse sexes. There’s more crossovers with those two directors and I care about it, so I watch all those. What I didn’t see was all the Spidermans, Batmans, and Marvel movies.
Number 4 movie of the year:
Jurassic World: Rebirth $339,640,400
Last year:
Number 111 Megalopolis $7,629,085
So it sure doesn’t look like people are tired of reboots and remakes yet.
Is it though? While I didn’t watch either, I heard of one. Over and over. Everywhere. This is the first time I’ve heard of the other.
At least some of this is also self-fulfilling, not just what people want to watch
Megalopolis was a passion project for Francis Ford Coppola for decades and was well discussed in the media when it came out.
It was a struggle to go see it because nobody went and it largely vanished in a week.
I could argue similar issues with even big budget popular movies. They seem to be in theaters only a few weeks and I struggle to see even these.
That was one of my reasons for considering becoming a frequent moviegoer. I’ve only ever gone to movies I want to see, which works out to at most a half dozen per year. But given needing to pick up new hobbies, being able to afford seeing things in theaters, and how many I’ve missed out on, would it be so bad to join one of those clubs where you see a movie every couple weeks?
Jurassic world afterbirth was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life. And I enjoy bad movies, just not like that.
Jurassic world afterbirth was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life. And I enjoy bad movies, just not like that.
I heard that the contract for fantastic 4’s IP meant the movie company had to make a movie with it at least every 10 years or they’d lose it. They subcontracted it to 20th century and because nobody gave a flaming shit about it, they put out a shitty f4 movie every 10 years.
Disney now owns the company that they contracted the rights to so they had a hand in the most recent one, but not the others afaik.
This is how Sony’s Spider-Man rights work (worked?). It’s why we’ve had 3 reboots in the last 20 years and why Marvel had to contract the rights back from Sony to get him in the Avengers movies.
The latest one was easily the worst one yet.
Oof. Gotta disagree with that. I hated the first one with Galactus and Silver Surfer. And I hated both previous versions of Doctor Doom. Still might hate this one, too, of course.
I thought this one set up the new cast without fucking anything important up, which is better than the other movies. It has a cool aesthetic.
I didn’t walk out needing more of them, though. I think some of the high points of the infinity saga are just a tough act to follow. Even movies that I really enjoyed like Thunderbolts just don’t have the same punch as Winter Soldier or Civil War.
Bad plot, extremely bad pacing, bad writing, bad acting, bad and boring fight scenes, bad villains. Galactus’s big fight was literally just… him walking through a city… The aesthetic was bizarre and did not feel authentic. Truly zero redeeming qualities.
Never saw the 90s one I take ITT?
Although it wasn’t…awful. And for the budget, the Thing costume was impressive.
McDonald’s and the MCU/popcorn flicks/cheap remakes and sequels of recognisable IPs are all the common man needs. I stopped getting mad at this kind of thing a long time ago and just learned to live with it.
I want the rule that any IP rebooted twice in a 20 year period (the age music and cars are both considered “classics” and for cars emissions tests don’t apply), the IP and any derivative works immediately becomes public domain.
just revert all copyright back to: 14 years, plus the ability to renew it one time, for 14 more
I think your maths is off. If every, or most, popular films in 2010 were remade, I think you would be even more irritated.
Personally, yes.
But it’s clear from box office numbers that remakes make more money and people are hesitant to spend their money on untested, new properties. It costs a lot to go out to a movie nowadays, which is a separate problem in itself. When you’re taking your family to see a film, do you want to risk a new universe that you may not enjoy, or just go with something that you KNOW you’ll at least be able to somewhat enjoy.
The Gorge is a perfect example of this. Good premise, but flopped. In fact I think the last “genre” new I.P that made any sort of splash that I can remember was “A Quiet Place”, and that was due at least in part because it was the directorial debut of Jim from the office.
Because of this, original I.Ps get smaller releases, get faster onto streaming services if no immediately, and are less advertised.
So it’s all a vicious circle, but an understandable one from both a moviegoer and a business perspective.
The gorge also released directly onto apple tv+ without ever being in theaters as far as I know, so not exactly a great example. It was also just not particularly good.
No, number of shits given 0.0. You know you don’t have to watch them right ? They make them becase they work
Thanks sherlock, I use to think I had to watch each one. Glad you just let me know that information.
Only around 35% of reboots are hits. The rest are flops.
Excellent response 😂😂😂 what an obnoxious comment “YoU dOnT hAvE tO wAtCh ThEm”
And what does it mean “they make them cause they work”? Did the Snow White remake work? Or Lady and the Tramp? Or Dumbo? No, they flopped, and people hated them.
I hate these remakes and reboots. They’re awful. Sad that so much money and energy gets poured into stories that don’t need to be retold. The motivation is purely profit, and it shows.
I recently made an Unpopular Opinion post about this (TL;DR I’m supportive of remakes/reboots if done with genuine passion for the material, just as I am with cover versions of songs or transplantations of stage plays to modern settings/Disney cartoons, etc.):
https://lemmy.world/post/35309322
The originals aren’t going anywhere (unless you’re George Lucas 😒), and there are new films coming out every week from all over the world, the reboots/remakes are like less than 1% of what gets released in any given year. Marketing and social media can make things seem bigger and more pervasive than they actually are. Having said that, I’d honestly be happier if the number was more like 5% (with the aforementioned caveats about passion, talent and quality).
But yeah, there are lots of remakes/reboots that are borne of pure cynicism and boardroom sociopathy. Fuck those. But they aren’t the only ones on offer. Baby/bathwater.
Can you remake your unpopular opinion in my group. They banned me. My group is the same with no censorship so feel free to post any unpopular opinion you have. https://lemmy.world/c/unpopularopinionuncensored
You know you don’t have to watch them. They’re only being released because people watch them.
