• pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Counterpoint: I use the McDonald’s app where it belongs - on a giant greasy ordering kiosk.

    But seriously, banks have websites. Everyone and everything has a website.

    I don’t need Android apps at the cost of my privacy or at the cost of control of my devices.

    I use GrapheneOS as my only phone, and I have done so for years.

    Whatever the topic, I don’t need an app for that.

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      2 days ago

      I don’t know about the US but on this side of the pond banks have their own 2nd factor apps. So to log in to a bank’s website you need an app - quite probably with play integrity.

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        Dang. Y’all need to pick better credit unions. MFA rolling token is an open standard. Any single app can support all of my (correctly implemented) tokens. I prefer Aegis, but they (correctly implemented MFA apps) all work.

        I don’t want to trust my money to someone who can’t implement standards compliant MFA.

        That would scare the daylights out of me.

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        That’s insane, I have never heard of such a thing, but I’m in the US where most banks don’t even have non-sms second factor.

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        2 days ago

        I’ve been using a dedicated TAN generator for banking since I first made my account but I don’t doubt that’s going away at some point, since debit cards from the same bank already require an app for 3-D secure.

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        2 days ago

        No, hardware TAN generator work fine. If the bank wants to force me to use proprietary snake oil it’s time for a new bank. Or using a dedicated old smartphone just for the app.

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      2 days ago

      Counter-counterpoint:

      Banks use their app to generate the otp and they reinvented the wheel so if you want to login you need to install it, can’t use a generic authenticator. I am not aware of any single bank in the EU that allows the use of generic authenticators.

      For McDonald’s, using the app gives at least 50% off. A menu in the app costs 5 euro while on the store kiosk costs 12 euro. I do not personally care because I find their food to be just barely edible, but I understand why there’s a need to install the app

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        2 days ago

        Some people have no smartphone at all. How can they be customers at your bank?

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            2 days ago

            Damn… The two extremes of the cyberpunk dystopia: no tech at all vs tech slavery.

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          2 days ago

          Pay a fee of 0.30€ to receive the otp via SMS every time they want to login without the proprietary otp app and 0.30€ for each payment to authorize

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            2 days ago

            Fucking hell, y’all make me realize how lucky I am with my bank that runs without gapps.