• Flickerby@lemmy.zip
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    30 days ago

    “OMG these people are incel losers they have no worth and deserve to die!”

    “Incel losers” commits a horrific crime because they were treated like they have no worth and deserve to die

    “OMG can you believe it? We should bully them harder, that will fix things!”

    Maybe the fucking problem is people treating these poor people so horribly. We want to PREVENT such things happening which means addressing the root of the problem and trying to catch people who could fall into those destructive manoaphere circles BEFORE they get the idea to commit mass murder. I’m PRETTY positive the solution isn’t to bully them more.

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      29 days ago

      “Incel losers” commits a horrific crime because they were treated like they have no worth and deserve to die

      What makes you think that was why a particular crime was committed? There are lots and lots of people who get bullied and are treated like shit and they don’t act out in some horrible, violent way.

      I think it’s these communities that they’re in that encourage that kind of behavior. We need better support structures for our society so that people who need community can find something healthy.

    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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      29 days ago

      I thought we agreed to treat every life as worthless, unless they have a couple of million dollars on them, regardless of gender or race?

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      29 days ago

      A part that complicates things is that incels, contrary to what the name implies, choose to be incels. Also, working with incels specifically could end up giving a perverse incentive (or whatever it’s called when an effort to reduce something instead becomes an incentive to increase it) to be an incel to get help.

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          29 days ago

          Yeah, inceldom is a mindset, choosing to be bitter about their state of affairs and lash out at others for not wanting them. I don’t frequent their areas, but some of them blame various ratios of their facial positioning when their face is fine, it’s just their attitude that is shitty.

          I guess it could be argued how much one can change their personality to be less off-putting, but I’ve known some real ugly dudes that have had fine dating lives.