Tuesday that 30-year-old (…) was found dead Monday night at a home near Newington from an apparent dog attack. (…) He says an autopsy revealed Wilcox died as a result of injuries received from the attack.
Investigators say Wilcox was familiar with the pets at that residence and had handled them safely on numerous occasions in the past. None of the dogs in the home had any known history of viciousness or aggression
Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.
You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it’s in their DNA.
Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.
This is it, full stop.
Dogs are individuals and should be treated as such.
I helped raise and home two litters of Staffordshire pups, we kept a rigorous list of the owners that we interviewed and checked the homes once a year to monitor the dogs progression. We made the owners sign a contract stating that if the living standards weren’t up to snuff, we could reclaim the dogs. I worked with a fellow who raised Staffies for 30 years. In two litters, we had around a dozen well trained, friendly huggable porkchops. Two litters that had no recorded bites past a few months old (puppys nibble but can be trained), and showed no aggression with other animals. All those pups lived to old age, and passed in happy homes. I’ve also met too many pitbulls that were beyond any help i had to offer. Damaged dogs damaged by poor parenting.
I know my story is anecdotal, and i don’t expect to change minds here, but i cant stand the outrage against such lovable dorks when something like the chihuahua exists.
Dogs are animals, and no amount of training can make it certain they will not attack, because, as you say, they are individuals. Therefore a well-trained Pitbull remains more dangerous than a well-trained [insert literally any other dog breed here].
I absolutely love dogs, including Pitbulls. I despair at what humans have done with selective breeding, by giving Pugs a lifetime of health problems, Pitbulls a greater chance of being euthanised, greyhounds a brain the size of a pea etc., etc. The right thing to do is to vote with our feet and stop the demand for breeds that shouldn’t exist. The real villains here are the people creating pure bred pits for profit.
Dogs aren’t individuals. They’re animals. You don’t need a pitbull. There are plenty of other beautiful breeds like Retrievers/Laboradors or Border collies, etc.
With pitbulls you have to train them specifically not to fight to lower the chances. They shouldn’t be available to own to the general public.
Humans are also animals. Part of the animalia kingdom, like everything else of flesh and bone.
Animals may not be sapient (being capable of human level generalist brain processing), but they’re absolutely individuals with individual personalities.
You’d know this of you’ve lived with a few cats, or dogs, or worked on an animal farm for any length of time.
Or - and hear me out - we could castrate and render infertile every person who suggests the elimination of an entire breed so that they can’t spread their idiocy to their children.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so “tough guys” get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.
I live in Copenhagen, however, and I’ve seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.
Less. Chihuahuas can be aggressive, bitey little shits without proper training. Most people I’ve seen with Chihuahuas don’t train them. It’s just a small little dog, what harm can it do?
It doesn’t matter about the mauling. What is more likely to kill you? A pitbull or a Chihuahua. If a Chihuahua tried to maul an average healthy adult, the healthy adult could probably fight it off quite quickly with minimal small bite injuries. You can’t say the same about a pitbull.
Guns don’t get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I’ve seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.
Is this a dig at pitbulls?
One the oldest around.
If you know what breed it’s talking about, that suggests there’s probably some truth to it
Question is to what extent it is the breed versus the owners drawn to or scared away from the breed. These things can be self fulfilling.
Yes, it is and people are assholes.
Yes, pit bull bites are more dangerous. No, that doesn’t mean they should all be euthanized. They need proper training and that’s it.
https://eu.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/04/pitbull-kills-owners-girlfriend-sheriff-says/15719416007/
Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.
You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it’s in their DNA.
Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.
Stop being weird.
This is it, full stop. Dogs are individuals and should be treated as such.
I helped raise and home two litters of Staffordshire pups, we kept a rigorous list of the owners that we interviewed and checked the homes once a year to monitor the dogs progression. We made the owners sign a contract stating that if the living standards weren’t up to snuff, we could reclaim the dogs. I worked with a fellow who raised Staffies for 30 years. In two litters, we had around a dozen well trained, friendly huggable porkchops. Two litters that had no recorded bites past a few months old (puppys nibble but can be trained), and showed no aggression with other animals. All those pups lived to old age, and passed in happy homes. I’ve also met too many pitbulls that were beyond any help i had to offer. Damaged dogs damaged by poor parenting.
I know my story is anecdotal, and i don’t expect to change minds here, but i cant stand the outrage against such lovable dorks when something like the chihuahua exists.
Dogs are animals, and no amount of training can make it certain they will not attack, because, as you say, they are individuals. Therefore a well-trained Pitbull remains more dangerous than a well-trained [insert literally any other dog breed here].
I absolutely love dogs, including Pitbulls. I despair at what humans have done with selective breeding, by giving Pugs a lifetime of health problems, Pitbulls a greater chance of being euthanised, greyhounds a brain the size of a pea etc., etc. The right thing to do is to vote with our feet and stop the demand for breeds that shouldn’t exist. The real villains here are the people creating pure bred pits for profit.
And the people who pay those breeders for these types of dogs are part of the problem.
Dogs aren’t individuals. They’re animals. You don’t need a pitbull. There are plenty of other beautiful breeds like Retrievers/Laboradors or Border collies, etc.
With pitbulls you have to train them specifically not to fight to lower the chances. They shouldn’t be available to own to the general public.
Humans are also animals. Part of the animalia kingdom, like everything else of flesh and bone.
Animals may not be sapient (being capable of human level generalist brain processing), but they’re absolutely individuals with individual personalities.
You’d know this of you’ve lived with a few cats, or dogs, or worked on an animal farm for any length of time.
Yes, and humans also get judged based on their own actions.
You aren’t going to lock up the parents of a serial killer because they didn’t train them well enough.
Dogs are individuals as well. Some still show their wild instinct even when trained well enough. Or are you saying dogs can’t have a personality?
Well, that depends on whether or not the parents were abusive, now doesn’t it?
Not sure what country you’re from, but abusive parents tend to get locked up.
They should all be euthanised. There’s no good reason to own a pitbull. They were literally bred for fighting and it’s in their instincts.
Should I go down the list of all the dogs that were specifically bred for being hunting dogs, war dogs, or guard dogs?
That list is absolutely going to be massive and I’m pretty sure it’ll feature a number of dogs you’d otherwise consider lovable family dogs.
We’re probably going to be left with a handful of breeds meant for puffed up rich floozies that suffer from amalgamated sinus cavities.
You’re missing the blindingly obvious solution that should be taken: spay and neuter them so that no new ones are bred.
Or - and hear me out - we could castrate and render infertile every person who suggests the elimination of an entire breed so that they can’t spread their idiocy to their children.
Hol’ up, there’s some sort of incongruity here that I can’t quite put my finger on…
The irony of the down votes you’re getting. XD
Nah, we should give police orders to shoot every pitbull on sight.
You should be embarrassed to support eugenics.
r/whooooosh
Could you explain why you think they’re not serious?
I suspect they’re half-serious but both ironic and hyperbolic. Just seems the most likely.
Maybe? I hear shit like this for real all the time, even here.
Unfortunately there is a feedback loop somewhere.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so “tough guys” get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.
I live in Copenhagen, however, and I’ve seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.
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Now hypothetically, if every breed except Chihuahuas was banned, and those tough guys were forced to buy those and not train them.
Do you think there would be more, less or equal amount of dog mauling?
Less. Chihuahuas can be aggressive, bitey little shits without proper training. Most people I’ve seen with Chihuahuas don’t train them. It’s just a small little dog, what harm can it do?
It doesn’t matter about the mauling. What is more likely to kill you? A pitbull or a Chihuahua. If a Chihuahua tried to maul an average healthy adult, the healthy adult could probably fight it off quite quickly with minimal small bite injuries. You can’t say the same about a pitbull.
Great, so you agree breed is a variable that shouldn’t be underestimated.
That’s exactly how everyone talks about their pitbull until it rips their child to pieces.
So can guns.
Guns are weapons. Not lifeforms.
Guns don’t get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I’ve seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.
“heres anecdotal evidence to support my worldview”
Searching “pitbull kills baby” gets way too mant results for my liking
so does “golden retriever kills baby” or “insert any dog breed kills baby”
It literally doesn’t, please cite a single golden retriever kills baby article
It’s just less common compared to the relative popularity of the breeds
Counterpoint, hipoints
Yes
Sad.