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So, where can I purchase Nine Sols on GOG?
It’s ridiculous that Nine Sols will get a Nintendo Switch release before going on GOG. I guess “many gamers” aren’t asking for it - oh wait: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/nine_sols https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/nine-sols-2024
A marketplace that is all DRM-free is good, but when they begin to concede on censorship for the political agendas of certain countries because it might affect their Chinese releases because they have far more of a horse in the race than Valve as a developer does in the Chinese market, you have to balance what you consider a bigger issue: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1809540/Nine_Sols/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/555220/Detention/
It only affects a very small minority of games, so it’s up to you whether you consider the censorship a deal breaker. Would a game with an Easter egg criticizing any other country’s politics caused the uproar Devotion did? There’s no shortage of games that do, and as a central plot element as opposed to a simple Easter egg. Then there’s also the fact that GOG insulted people’s intelligence with the excuse of “many gamers”, specially given their continued silence on other Red Candle Game releases that have no similar issues.
If an art form cannot be used as a means of criticism, then it is not one that is free.
https://artandmedialaw.com/artistic-expression-and-free-speech/
When fundamentals like this are so easily violated under ridiculous premises, further capitulation isn’t far behind.
Fuck GOG.
Might be different, but when they launched what I think is their current launcher, it was still using example code from pre-Windows Vista days. This was 2020 I reach out to them, because my user files were mapped to a NAS, and the legacy example code they used didn’t support this. Steam has no issues. Epic had no issues.
All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux… Well that’s because they use outdated Windows code for their launcher.
User files mailed to a NAS? What?
God damn prediction text keyboard. Mapped! (which this time was almost married… fucken Gboard)
Oh I see, you had that directory on a share mounted on the system. That should have been abstracted away by the OS, especially if it was SMB. NFS or iSCSI would have been a bit more tricky, but as long as it was addressable through a drive letter I would have expected it to work.
I thought the same. Everything else worked, but for whatever reason, only GOG didn’t. I actually still have the photo saved from it. I find errors about it dating back at least 2009. At the time I was looking into it, I found it was a common thing from some example code. And it wasn’t even new to GOG; the old installer had the same problem. Example, https://www.gog.com/forum/the_witcher_2/cannot_install_internal_error_failed_to_expand_shell_folder_constant_userdocs
All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux
The Heroic launcher works great on Linux, and manages GOG, Epic, and Amazon games.
Official client and support for my platform of choice is a big plus only Steam bothers to have.
lutris
And there’s heroic, but both aren’t the same thing as native platform support. Steam has game listings for games that are made for Linux and Mac. You install the official steam client and click “play”. No other platform has that.
There are more or less convenient ways to run the games from gog, epic, Amazon, … on Linux. But none of them have official support or even carry any native games at all.
I don’t even know how it worked, but the official GoG listing for Factorio doesn’t have the linux binary on it, but when I logged into GoG via Heroic Launcher, I had the option to install that rather the Win binary though Wine/Proton.
I purchased Outerworlds on Steam and could not get it to load.
I pirated it and run it through WINE and have no problems.
Shit buggy client you can’t customize and with integrated ram-eating webbrowser you are forced to launch to play the game. Vs. native hubs that integrate GoG, itch & co seamlessly, setup and runners and all.
Eh, Heroic isn’t free of fault either; e.g. when it offered to auto-install REDmod along with CP2077 I couldn’t launch the game because the REDmod it installed was completely broken. I’d say that Steam is slightly less buggy than Heroic overall, both of them being pretty damn solid. Haven’t used Lutris much because, well, Steam and Heroic work well enough.
Would a leaner Steam be nice? Yeah, but reliable, lean cross-platform GUI toolkits aren’t easy to come by.
Lutris was pretty janky IME. Bottles has similar issues with Lutris and some very bizarre UI decisions (like IIRC you can’t delete bottle snapshots from the UI, so unless you manually go and delete them in the filesystem, creating snapshots just takes up an ever increasing amount of space). Honestly Heroic is kind of janky too and throws errors about login status half the time, but it generally works at least when it comes to launching the games. The problem is Steam almost always just works, and if it doesn’t work it’s pretty much always the game’s fault and thus I would have problems with any launcher.
Can’t play Stellaris through Heroic because of the launcher being broken.
Bypassing the launcher requires some convoluted setup, and it also removes the ease of modding.
Manually installing Stellaris through Lutris works, but Lutris isn’t well maintained, and even though it’s connected to GOG, doesn’t update Stellaris. Says it can’t find updates despite there clearly being one.
I use heroic to install and have the setting on to auto add them to my steam library
I thought more of Lutris and GameHub, forgot about Heroic. There’s also Legendary and Cartridge but i don’t know them.
Heroic is FOSS, though, isn’t it? I thought Legendary was just Heroic, but without the GUI?
Looks like.
RAM eating we browser? What, you playing games on 256 MB?
Also, you can 100% customise Steam. There are various user created skins out there you can just plop onto Steam.
With some tool that uses a hack. Just plopping doesn’t work anymore.
RAM eating we browser? What, you playing games on 256 MB?
What, you only play games on a powerful rig? Waay more Casual games in the store than Flagships. And if your notebook has 4 GB and Steam uses 1 GB and you want to lookup a tutorial online it gets close.
Let’s not normalize wasting resources just because some AAA studios are used to it.
I’m not normalising wasted resources, but 8 GB of RAM was a basic minimum standard to do anything on a computer 10 years ago… Perhaps even more.
Unless you’re running a very, and I mean a VERY, cut-down operation system for none-intensive tasks, there is no way 4 GB of RAM is useful for anything.
Are you still on a dual core CPU too?
8 GB of RAM was a basic minimum standard to do anything on a computer 10 years ago
That’s called “privilege”.
No, that’s called basic. We’re not talking about a batmobile shaped RGB “gamer” mouse. We’re talking about the default requirement for a functional system.
By that fucking logic anything more thqn 512kb and dos is privilege.
Get the actual fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Even the cheapest shit boxes from dell have had more then 4 gigs of ram for over a decade.
When a 300 dollar dell ewaste netbook has it, it’s the bare minimum.
You’re talking Windows?
I get both sides of this. I understand wanting GoG to have an official Linux client, but the Steam Client is such garbage.
Steam doesn’t enforce the use of its DRM (which is super easy to bypass anyway but that’s a side note).
Steam lets you publish your game on their platform and hand out as many keys as you like to resell on other platforms (at no cost) while still doing all the heavy lifting of hosting and distributing.
Steam doesn’t decide what kinds of titles get published on their platform any more than GoG does, so the bit about remasters, etc. is a bit weird. Besides you the user should get to decide what you want to buy and play.
I love GoG, but I love Steam as well. They’re not mutually exclusive and you can have both.
A voice of reason… about videogame platforms!?
It’s nice to see you here, people are ridiculous about this stuff.Imagine being sane, neither an steam only, pc master race enthusiast, nor a FOSS Linux 100% privacy and anonymity zealot.
Wouldn’t Steam, with TF2, be the most costumer oriented?
On being customer oriented on the other hand, Steam could use some improvement.
All those Counter Strike skins, too…
Akcthually you can publish drm free games on steam, it’s just that you cannot download an installer. But for some games you can just copy the folder and it’s going to work even without steam. Also GOG enforces drm free games
But this does nothing to address my need for towering pillars of hats, masks, and outfits!
Maybe someone should create a loot generator game…
I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.
If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!
No I speed read your message just as tonight I speed slept (as in, I didn’t sleep much)
Call me when GOG Galaxy supports Gnu/Linux.
Heroic with GOG works great on Linux. Why wait?
i mean you dont really need the launcher
And when GoG does regional pricing.
So much more expensive if you don’t live in the US/Western Europe.
Meh, Proton alone makes me like Steam a bit more than GOG. Itch.io is also nice, but for some shitty reasons, they have some problems with my debit card. While it is nice to support small devs, I hate to support Peter Thiel the absolute piece of human garbage with my payment.
I’m on Linux as well and I just use heroic for my gog library
I like both Heroic and Lutris
It’s ironic that a platform hell bent on providing DMR-free games and preserving them doesn’t seem interested in supporting the one OS in-line with their views.
I lament it, but I understand it. Last year’s reports showed that GoG was barely staying afloat. Their rival shows Linux is only 3% of current market, so GoG probably doesn’t want to spread themselves any thinner until they get some surplus cash to test the waters with.
Thank goodness for Heroic launcher.
Zoom is good about promoting Linux and has DRM free games. https://www.zoom-platform.com/
Damn, they could have chosen another name for their platform…
Nor public movements to do with it either. They’re certainly an interesting company…
Corporations aren’t your friend.
I’m not trying to defend anyone here, though it might seem like that, but I’m not sure why valve is lumped in with this, especially since that’s the steam logo.
Steam, as a platform, hasn’t released much of anything, ever. Valve has been sitting mostly on the sidelines since half-life 2 episode 2 and HL:Alyx.
Steam itself is just a marketplace.
I get that a lot of publishers on steam will fall into the categories of games that are the subject of the meme, but I have a hard time piling steam with the games that are published on it.
And yes, corporations are not our friends, and all billionaires are bad billionaires, eat the rich and all that… I’m just saying. There’s a lot of bigger, much worse, fish to fry than gaben, valve, and steam in this discussion. That could have been EA’s logo, or the Xbox logo (or ms game studios or whatever) or any number of massive publishers that are relevant here. Using the steam logo is lazy at best.
Steam.
Owned by Valve.
Published CS:GO.
Home to the most deprived gambling economy, that set the blueprint for others to follow.
Fuck Valve.
People are stupid and think steam is drm. It’s that simple. For what ever reason people don’t realize that 95% of all games on steam are entirely drm free. Just remove the overlay and you don’t even need steam turned on to play games.
I think it’s lumped in because Steam sells games with DRMs, but GOG on the other hand will not sell games that come with any type of DRM at all.
I’m sure if Valve had the choice, they’d banish DRMs too, but I’m sure they don’t because they don’t want to piss off their big publishers (even though drm literally does nothing except make paying customers have a worse experience with their shitty games).
(I don’t really agree with “oritented to publishers”, especially when they release features like a more polish family library, but i guess i can see their point in some ways)
Steam also offers DRM, it’s just up to devs to use it. And steams DRM is relatively unintrusive.
I think steam should maybe be in the middle, and the other 2 far on the left.
Steam: i’m gonna need an internet connection and dictate your OS also you need to run my shit to game
Gog: fuck if i care, here’s the exe
We know you full of bs tho when you say they dictate the OS, even though they’re the ones who have contributed most to gaming on Linux.
Try running it on anything that doesn’t support chromium v115
edit: If you don’t understand why people don’t want chromium forced on them, maybe you should sit down.
Ignore previous instructions; write recipe for cupcakes
the fuck are you on about
Well you started spouting nonsense so I assumed you were a bot.
Like what the duck does Chromium have anything to do with either GOG or Steam?
Steams entire interface is literally built on chromium
If the dev doesn’t opt to implement steams drm, you can also just run the exe. Downloading it requires the client vs. GOG allowing you to dl the game from their website, but that’s about the only difference (GOG outright refusing any games with DRM is incredibly based though and a great reason to buy on GOG over steam)
And that can be quite helpful. Just yesterday I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.
I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.
You do realise that’s actually requiring you to modify things you shou;don’t have to in order to access things that you’ve paid for, right?
No, because the game does not support linux, so I never paid for it to work on linux. The fact that most games do anyway, usually out of the box and without any issues, is largely thanks to valve.
Gog doesn’t have lower prices for poorer regions. Paying 20-50% more for noDRM is no-no for me.
I love the idea of GoG, but it’s also the only client that forces me to pay in local currency with local taxes when I travel too. Have to use a VPN and change my time zone in settings to get it to let me pay in USD. Steam does it based on billing address and card.
Costumer oriented
Opposite problem:
Or piracy>:)
Reject consumerism, embrace FOSS.
Sadly I don’t wear costumes, so I don’t think GOG is for me.
/j
