Ah yes. This surely will have no long term consequences.
Definitely won’t do anything to hurt the common person
I thought that was the final goal of neoliberalism.
We are living the paperclip maximizer problem, except instead of paperclips it’s data centers.
Well, we’re not even anywhere close to AGI yet, and the underlying problem of “the people running everything these days are not programmed to value living things - only money” Is pretty fucking obvious at this point
i wish it was agi doing this, then maybe it could be reasoned with. rich pieces of shit that are detached from reality and humanity can’t.
The AGI you are talking about sounds woke, and that’s illegal under an executive order that takes effect at the end of the year, at least in the US.
We thought we’ll get artificial intelligence, but all we got was organic stupidity.
That you don’t need AGI for a paperclip maximizer was obvious a decade ago https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2018/01/dude-you-broke-the-future.html
ho-ly shit. this was a good read and it damn well predicted where we are almost 9 years on. 2 things that stuck out
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“It’s not like I’m predicting that airliners will fly slower and Nazis will take over the United States, is it?”
this one… just like, reading it was like oh boy little do you know. -
“It might be Facebook or Twitter messages optimized to produce outrage, or it could be porn generated by AI to appeal to kinks you aren’t even consciously aware of.” This one really hit the nail on the head. Whether its boomers on Facebook watching fake baby interviews, or everyone else on Reddit and TikTok falling for rage bait (and the gooners on X). Just… man. Why don’t people get off their asses and fucking do something about this stuff? Why didnt they? I try to vote, and call local electives, participate in my community and keep people informed but Jesus. i dont know where we’ll end up by 2036 if we aren’t enslaved by that point.
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We don’t even know if AGI is possible…
Funnily enough, I was just introduced to this fascinating little game about being a paperclip making machine.
https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
I spent a good 3 or 4 hours playing instead of sleeping.
El Chavo del Ocho Reference!!! Elite ball knowledge 🤝🤝🤝
Is there even enough power on the grid for all these data centers? Wtf?
Nope. A couple of them have been built and they’re just sitting there unpowered
Imagine you had infinite money and no consequences
I mean you could like— build entire city size data centers right?
But this infinite money goes away if you’re not building them
So your choices are to build something that you don’t need or to have no money
You see, humans were not very evolved or adapted to their planet, given their own social structures
A couple of them have been built and they’re just sitting there unpowered
Most of them in California because that State simply cannot get its shitty power grid sorted out. The damn thing barely works at the best of times due to a combination of corruption, greed, and Government interference.
As an example the utility company promised Digital Realty and Stack Infrastructure that they’d have the power ready for them by the time their DCs were built but…SURPRISE…they lied. The only fault for DR and SI here is trusting a California Utility to deliver on their promise.
No, some of them are running generators on site to get more power.
There’s many new jobs opening in the AI sector, pedalling on dynamo bikes.
In the middle ages machines where powered by peasants in human-sized hamster wheels. I think that tech may make a come back.
Power availability is actually a primary consideration when choosing a location for a Data Center. Sometimes they’ll site a DC even if there isn’t enough power and then build out the power generation that they need.
An example are the two DCs that Microsoft is building in Cheyenne, Wyoming and the absolutely massive 1.2 Million panel solar farm being built to power them. https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/11/massive-1-2-billion-1-2-million-panel-solar-farm-planned-for-south-cheyenne/
This is at least the second time that Microsoft has done this in Cheyenne. In 2016 they contracted for 237 MW of Wind Energy, which led to the Chokecherry and Sierra Madre wind farms being built / expanded. https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2016/11/14/latest-energy-deal-microsofts-cheyenne-datacenter-will-now-powered-entirely-wind-energy-keeping-us-course-build-greener-responsible-cloud/
No matter what you think of AI the folks that engineer these DCs aren’t stupid. They are well aware of their extreme power requirements.
Depends how dirty you accept the power.
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We have such copious amounts of excess power but its all in off peak times. We need to build batteries or other storage methods so we can capture it in off peak hours for use during peak hours. It also helps stabilize and strengthen the grid.
We should force these data centers to help foot the bill for that instead of doing the stupid shit they’re doing like portable generators, bring coal plants back online and what not.
Samsung put 12 gigs of ram in my phone. I don’t even use that much.
Just open a second tab in chrome and you’ll be redlining that puppy.
Damn, I was hoping to upgrade my ram in the next 6 months. When I built my PC last winter I couldn’t find any decent 64gb sticks so I went with 46gb instead figuring I’d upgrade when they got reasonable. Oh well, guess I’m rocking them for a bit longer.
This OpenAI RAM buyout really was a “If we’re going down, we’re taking everyone with us” move.
The “when you’re out of money and you pretend you have even more” tactic.
They’ll pivot to being the world’s largest RAM re-saler and clean up.
Damn Samsung, they ruined Samsung!
Glad I built a new PC in the spring but bummed that I only bought a stick of 32GB DDR5 memory thinking that I would buy another 32 after a few months. I guess I won’t be needing dual channel memory after all.
That explains why the Tab I took out credit for, suddenly disappeared off the manufacturing site, and they tried to get me a shittier one.
So, I get the excuse to refund the money, I have to pay off the rates, but at least I get the cash upfront 😎
