When Olympian Tess Howard put on her new uniform for Great Britain’s women’s field hockey team in 2021, she felt something she hadn’t expected at the height of her athletic career: embarrassment.

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      Because how is this uplifting? It’s in the wrong community and should be actually be removed.

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        And little known fact, being Lemmy, you can actually see who downvoted what. I won’t list the URL here because of at least an attempt at privacy, but you can just check any post or comment for the exact user who downvoted it.

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          It’s not just one URL that let’s you view it. Any admin can of any instance. That’s how the service to view votes works. They spun up an instance and made it accessible for anyone.

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            Sure. But I don’t expect every user to spin a private instance to see it. I do expect users to be able to load one simple URL.

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              Yeah, me neither. I’m just clarifying that it’s not like it’s only available in one place. It’s a feature of Lemmy that votes are public. I want to make sure everyone knows that. It’s not just one rogue place that made it public. It’s just how Lemmy functions.

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          But really, who cares what the downvoting losers think. They’ll follow you around and tag you regardless.

          Edit: lol yeah I asked for that :-P

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    Also, why aren’t figure skaters wearing helmets? I don’t even get off the snow much on my board, but I wear a helmet.

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    It’s a sad but fairly common thing - men’s sports is for “looking at sports”, women’s sport is for “looking at athletes”. That’s not to say that male athletes aren’t also sexualized, but much less and at least there generally performance > looks. Also shows in which companies sponsor what.

    Personally I don’t care for most sports, but yeah.

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      I like women’s volleyball. It’s genuinely better than men’s, it’s way more dynamic

      I’m not going to lie about how my friends convinced me to go initially, but it’s one of the few sports I actually find interesting to watch

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    I’m a dude, but I’ll fight for every woman or girl in my life to live like they want to. If the school of my friends daughter tries something like this I’ll go there and start a fight. I’d do the same for their son, but I don’t have to because having a dick means you can wear comfy clothing.

    Jesus, we should really have gotten to the real issues by now, it’s nearly 2026 and we humans homo barely sapiens still behave like idiots.

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    Bloody hell I thought it was a matter of “Girl ain’t wanna play with fit clothing” but no. For anyone too lazy to read that, clothes were literally constricting their movement and restricting breathing.

    Other than that the “first woman to win in shorts” people talk about is about skort vs shorts which…I don’t get. Functionally the same, it seems, so where’s the problem in it?

    But also all in all can we just go unisex on this shit, without crushing peoples organs?

    Also girls feel overly sexualised. Well, we like to look at eye candy in sports, regardless of sex…but again, can we go unisex in clothing, with non-crushing design? Would solve a lot of problems.

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    I would’ve removed this post if I saw it earlier. It’s an interesting article (that surprisingly hasn’t been posted anywhere else yet) but it documents another problem in our society, not any sort of progress or resolution. I would remove, say, “The fight to release the double-tap boat strike video” even if we didn’t have the toxic politics rule.

    pinging some of the other mods for their thoughts: @NickwithaC@lemmy.world, @sga@piefed.social, @wolfeh@lemmy.world

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      sorry for being late, been away a lot lately. also the website just did not liek my setup (js/cache disabled, plus some more), had to start inprivate window.

      getting to main topic - it is not a uplifting news from the title - but from the part - she became the first to sccore in shorts, which to my non sports term understanding ass sounds like skorts (or whatever those skin hugging clothing for respective sport is called) bad and shorts good, is uplifting. So definitely leave it up.

      I watch cricket a lot (a bat and ball sport) - and you basically wear what you want - full/half sleaves, sweater or jacket or cap or hat - if it does not hinder your performance it does not matter.

      I can see some sports where gear matters - swimming and running sports come to mind where viscous drag from water or air come in effect, and how your gear shapes and how vortex shedding happens and general graglines matter, so like running shoes, it becomes a requirement for performance, but beyond these sports, any clothing should work.

      I do know that alot of women sports get viewing purely because a lot men get to see “hot women”, and that is definitely bad.

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        The successful fight is why I posted it here. Sorry to be so controversial with it.

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          no problem buddy, post freely. this is not controversial at all compared to what it used to be half or so year ago, it is like a fraction.

          thanks for the post, i did hear something in these lines a year ago but did not know any details.

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        This happens in swimming too. The racing suits that the girls wear (called tech suits) need to be very form-fitting to get the best streamlining in the water. What they don’t need, however, is translucent body panels that make the girls look like they are wearing bikinis underneath. It’s gotten better in the past couple of seasons where they are offering different patterns and colors of suits. But the problem remains with the basic black suits.

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          honestly, i would have exppected all black to be better, since i theory it will reduce contrast and shadow lines, but yeah i guess outer curves would still be visible

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    Hmm, i don’t know how to feel about this one. On the one hand dress codes are important, but at the same time players shiyld be comfortable in what they wear.

    I think a committee that includes players rather than bureacrats should be set up to address these issues

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      Hmm, i don’t know how to feel about this one. On the one hand dress codes are important, but at the same time players shiyld be comfortable in what they wear.

      Maybe you should read the article then… the ladies had no issue wearing a uniform, they just want a practical uniform that allows them to perform, not a stripper tease vagina dress

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      No downsides except the psychological toll on young woman being forced into embarrassing, impractical outfits on the global stage against their will in a world where the most powerful men have been secretly runing a pedophillic sex ring that traffics young girls?

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        I kind of hate the idea of uniforms anyways because they are dehumanizing to everyone, but sports is one of the places where it kind of makes sense. You are on a team and stuff.

        I think women having cute outfits is a good thing and I think most women agree.

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          I think women having cute outfits is a good thing and I think most women agree.

          You can’t possibly be this sexist and tone deaf. The entire article is about how this is not true and how people like you are ruining sports for girls. You are the problem and you seem intent on making sure everyone here knows it even though your original comment was removed for being so sexist.

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        Not just mine but everyone’s. I’m actually more on the demi/asexual side, but I do appreciate beauty, and people are beautiful. It’s not anything to be ashamed of. It’s actually a lot of work to be pretty. It’s something to be proud of. It makes everyone’s day better.

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      Most women enjoy being beautiful, and there is no downside so long as people aren’t taking it to crazy lengths.

      When the women you’re looking at are saying “I’m uncomfortable with this”, you’ve taken it too far

      It’s not that hard buddy. They’re people, they can talk

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          But that’s exactly what’s happening here. The women in question are saying “I’m uncomfortable”

          So now we don’t go “okay, but just make sure you stay fun to look at”

          What we do is say “that’s not good, let’s give you agency over the situation so you can show off what you’re comfortable with”

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            The people who are uncomfortable should find a hobby that suits them better. (No pun intended)

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              Let me break this down real simple.

              Everyone likes boobies. Literally all humans, even gay men and straight women, find them asthetically pleasing

              The women bouncing around are complaining about their shirts. They don’t feel pretty, they feel creeped out

              Don’t fucking drive them out… Are you insane? Let them pick their own shirts. They’re still going to want to look pretty. Stop making it weird

              All you need to do is give them autonomy. That’s it. That would make it positive for everyone involved

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      I love when scumbags freely out themselves.

      Women being beautiful is just one of those free goods that we get in our reality.

      Like, that is messed up. Are you saying that women are just things to look at? Because that’s what it sounds like, yo.

      For one thing there is an issue of agency, or control over their own appearance. Dressing up to look and feel pretty FOR THEMSELVES is a completely different thing from having an external force dictate their apparel. Let’s be real, that “external force” is probably mostly a bunch of old dudes.

      Another issue, and this is a big one, sports isn’t about ogling hot bods! They are there to play sports. Athletes, especially Olympic ones, put immense work into training so they can excel at their sport of choice. They do not put all that work in just to become “eye candy” or anything of the sort.

      They don’t do this to dudes anywhere near as bad. Imagine if the NBA uniform was crop tops and skin tight briefs or something. That can be comfortable, but in front of an arena and the whole world? Different story.

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        Just because I don’t agree with you, that doesn’t make me stupid, but making assumptions about people you don’t know anything about is really stupid.

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      there is no downside so long as people aren’t taking it to crazy lengths.

      Like forcing them to wear overly tight revealing outfits and perform in front of thousands of people?

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          They force them to wear overly tight revealing outfits and perform in front of thousands of people.