• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    AI generated slop, ICE would not have stopped, ICE would have ran her over and told you to ignore your lying eyes. Though it certainly puts tank man in perspective, it wasn’t just tank man, it was those driving and commanding that tank who still had enough shame to stop and not trample them.

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      Do you actually know what happened at Tiananmen Square?

      Tank man was the day after. The night before, they turned a massive student protest into a slurry that they pushed into the sewers. There was no shame.

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        You seem to think I’m trying to justify the Tiananmen Square when I’m just putting one particular incident in perspective to how ICE usually acts. Your gross oversimplifcations seem to want to act like whataboutism to how much worse the Tiananmen Square by portraying it into a caricature of “a massive student protest into a slurry that they pushed into the sewers”.

        It got pretty bad, a lot worse than any particular ICE incident up to date, but in a lot of ways it was served to the people just like ICE is being served up. People in the US should really inform themselves better with nuance, because the nuance is that it’s far closer to how ICE is acting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Military_action

        This is only a year into Trump’s second term and it’s already this bad. Just look at how long it took Hitler. I’m one of the people that follow several China youtubers, who supports how they can be an outlet for criticism that could not be made any other way in China, but I’ve gotta say, it has been revealing how much they are willing to ignore what is happening in the US and how illegal the operation against Venezuela was to the point that I now ask how much their bias is influencing them taking about outliers as if they were representative of the whole. The standard you compare against matters.

        There were tanks that mowed down people in Tiananmen Square Massacre, but in the infamous particular photo that made Tank Man famous, it really does characterize the restraint of that particular commander and/or driver from their shame, specially because others in the same massacre didn’t. It’s used to illustrate what difference one instance of opposition can make, but it’s also inherently only possible because that tank chose not to make that guy an statistic. The thing is, you are much more likely to get someone in the military to doubt themselves when facing its from an army that made up of the general geographic group of your peers than you are from one specially made to include the most racist, narcissistic, and power-tripping members of it. That’s why soldiers get a lot of the post traumatic stress disorder than some of these assholes never will (and neither do I think Jonathan Ross was suffering from it).

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    5 days ago

    It is photoshopped. US americans don’t have guts to directly confront their government.

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      5 days ago

      The flaw in your logic is ICE doesn’t have the guts to identify themselves or their vehicles.

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      I mean, that’s a very sweeping generalisation, which sort of ignores reality. There’s clearly a lot of protesting, and I, as I’m sure you have as well, have seen videos of people being murdered on the street to the cries of “stop resisting” even when the person didn’t do jack shit, only tried to hold on to their 1st and 4th amendment rights. And the end up under the knee of some psycho powertripper, repeating “I can’t breathe” for minutes before finally succumbing to death.

      Also nowadays I believe using AI is rather more common than photoshop.

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    All of the ICE vehicles I’ve seen are unmarked, with non-uniformed masked men jumping out of them and attacking people or their vehicles. Maybe 10 years ago, a Florida Man shot a black kid for wearing a hoodie, and got off on “stand your ground laws”. Apparentlly, MAGA thinks “if they could be ICE, give them all your money and vehicles” or you, as domestic terrorist scum, deserve to get killed.

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    I made this same comparison a few days ago and got down voted to hell for it. Glad I’m not the only one that sees it

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    So according to the tankie narrative, what this woman is really doing is telling them to go back and do their jobs