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um doesn’t this already exist in Europe and Japan?
Idk what the other dude is talking about. It definitely exists some places.
Source: live in Copenhagen, don’t own a car.
Yes.
Barcelona resident here. I pay 22€ for an unlimited month transit pass (that’s a discounted price that will probably go up). I can ride any underground, bus or commuter train inside the metropolitan area. I own a car to go outside the urban zone but I barely use it.
When I have to use my car in town (because I’m going to buy something that cannot be carried easily otherwise) I recall how much driving in the city sucks.
I’m actually thinking about sellling my car and using a rental service if I want to take a road trip.
Things exist only theoretically if they’re outside the only real country, the US.
No. Not really.
Cars are very common and walkable cities have been largely accommodated for the car.
Live in Stockholm, don’t have a car, can get around fine. Still want a car, but not for the city.
I went a year without driving in America ; its aweful
Yeah, I don’t know how anyone survives there without one.
that makes sense bc I did die
RIP in peace 🪦
I came back
55% of trips in Sweden are cars. I’d call that the default.
Sweden is a huge country, I drove 6 hours down to Malmö recently, and lots of people live on the outskirts where train and bus services are slower and more spotty. But if you live in the cities here, you don’t need a car.
Portland’s pretty good about this. The whole city is laid out in a pretty uniform grid, and the busses and trains come frequently and cover a really wide area. Getting around the city is a piece of cake, and the transit pass works the exact same regardless of which vehicle type you ride.
It’s not perfect, but it’s pretty damn close!
Sorry, best we can do in the U.S. is fuck all.
This post isn’t shit. Where is my refund?
Don’t say “cars as default”, say “built around people, not cars”
While I agree in principle with the OP, I feel I must point out that that wouldn’t completely make cars unnecessary. There are still remote or sparsely populated areas (a lot actually in my country) where comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible. I’d say we have use for both. Especially so if self driving means being able to summon a car when you need one without needing to own one. Or would that actually count as public transport then…?
Yeah, you’re never gonna live without trucks and vans either, you need those for the last few kilometres of the logistics chain. Still, we should reduce the remaining cars by half at least, and I’m saying that sitting in a train that goes so frequently that I don’t have to check a schedule.
Yeah, well said. I agree with you on that, sometimes cars are still needed
comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible
That’s how we used to do transit before cars were invented. The US had a railway line to even the most remote farms. USSR had amazing railways that interconnected almost everything despite being the biggest country on earth by a wide margin.
Generally the trick is to build densely populated walkable towns where you don’t need a car for daily activities, and connect them with railways. In that case, it doesn’t matter what the overall population density is.
Even for sparsely populated land, if you can build an asphalt road wider than 2 lanes, chances are you can also build a small commuter railway there eventually. It would also be cheaper overall, if you consider externalities like everyone having to own a car, car crashes being a lot more common than rail crashes, and of course CO₂ emissions and the climate change that comes along with them. And that’s besides the socioeconomic benefits of letting everyone have a way to travel, rather than only those with financial means to maintain a car and the ability to drive.
Cars are sometimes necessary, but it’s like 1% of what they are used for currently.
I want people to keep some communities light hearted
Yeah i dont know if this fits shitpost
So, London basically?
Saw this yesterday, instead of Atlanta building a new airport that could take away Delta’s dominance, the CEO suggests vertibirds for shuttling people to the airport. This totally ignores the fact that the public transit MARTA goes directly to the airport
I think self driving cars will help tbh. Only way it will happen.
Less parking. Solves last mile problem.
How will that help? By some studies, about 30% of traffic on downtown city streets is drivers circulating looking for street parking. With self-driving cars, they could cause congestion by circulating all day instead of parking.
If you get the train downtown then you are already downtown. You don’t need a self driving car at all. You need a way to get from your house to the train station by self driving car.
Or you have a lot more demand responsive transport. Everyone gets on a mini bus in the suburbs and you all get dropped off at the stores or locations you want one by one.
Russian train
That’s a Velaro
The Russian version of it though
In Russian livery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapsan
i’ve never heard a young person Say this before!!! I should write this down. /s (Fixed)
Come back and proofread what you wrote and fix it so it’s intelligible.
Ah yes, another US-centric post.
I’ll do you one better: I DON’T MIND CHECKING A GOD DAMN SCHEDULE. HELL, LET’S GET WILD AND MAKE THAT MFER PAPER I LITERALLY DGAF. Cuz I got that dawg in me!
Ok, it’s great to dream. In your dream are cars just completely gone? If so that’s a pretty extreme stretch of a dream. If you are going to have any cars why wouldn’t you want them to be self driving?
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