• squaresinger@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    The good thing is that coffee withdrawals are over quite quickly and don’t have long-term effects.

    But getting peer pressured into an addiction by one’s mom of all people is ironic.

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              22 days ago

              lmao… my first instinct was to type it out, i figured people shorten it as a sort of trauma filter, knew at least one person would think it was “Erectile Dysfunction” but proceeded nontheless

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                21 days ago

                IDK if there’s a similar function on Lemmy, but at least on tumblr it’s recommended to tag things in full (eg: a post about eating disorders should be tagged eating disorder instead of ED or funky eating or something dumb like that) so that way filtering is easier (though, people who don’t want to see ED content would likely filter both, it’s good for when there isn’t a specific euphemism everyone uses (there are so many terms people use for rape on the internet it isn’t even funny))

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        23 days ago

        Tell me you’re eastern european without telling me you’re eastern european

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      23 days ago

      But getting peer pressured into an addiction by one’s mom of all people is ironic.

      It’s one case where I’d argue that the most literal interpretation should apply, dictionary definition be damned. Your authority figures are not your peers.

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      23 days ago

      There are coffee withdrawals? I drink 2 (weak) coffees a day sometimes 3 and I have multiple times had a week or two without coffee because I forgot. I just drink it for the taste and warmth.

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        23 days ago

        Caffeine dependency is a thing for sure. You’ll get some gnarly headaches for a few days and feel fatigued. Takes about 2 weeks to lose it.

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        23 days ago

        The way caffeine works is that it allows the body to release energy reserves that it usually “locks” away from you. It allows you to tap into these reserves for concentration and makes you feel less tired.

        That’s helpful for short-term use, giving you more energy and concentration.

        But if you use too much caffeine for too long (“too much” depends on your body and “too long” is a few days), the body adjusts to the caffeine levels and now you have the same energy reserves and concentration that you had without caffeine before. Caffeine thus loses its effect on you and your baseline shifts, so that you need caffeine to be on the same level as before.

        If you now stop your caffeine intake, this swings back. Your body thinks you are really tired and you get headaches, bad mood, low concentration and so on, until you either take in more caffeine or you abstain long enough for your baseline to shift back.

        That’s why there are people who say they can’t work before they had their first coffee/energy drink. They literally can’t, because if they aren’t on the level of caffeine they are used to, their body tells them that they are super exhausted. This is the caffeine dependency/withdrawal effect.

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          23 days ago

          The way caffeine works is that it allows the body to release energy reserves that it usually “locks” away from you.

          I thought it just blocked the receptors for the chemicals that made us feel sleepy, not tapped into some hidden energy.

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            23 days ago

            Correct - my best ELI5.

            When you wake up your body starts producing adenosine, which slowly locks into receptors in your brain. As the day goes on, these receptors fill. By the end of the day your receptors are full which tells you you’re tired and need to go to sleep. When you sleep, these receptors clear to start the next day fresh (which is one of the reasons if you don’t sleep well, they don’t all clear and you start the day tired.)

            Caffeine fits these receptor sites, preventing the adenosine from locking in and delaying the onset of fatigue. Caffeine half life is about 5-6 hours, which can lead to the “crash” as the free adenosine starts locking into the receptors the caffeine is now making available as it breaks down.

            When caffeine is consumed regularly and the brain isn’t detecting the expected adenosine feedback, it responds by creating more receptors. More caffeine is now needed to account for the new receptors. If you skip caffeine with the addition of receptors, the adenosine fills the extra receptors faster and leaves you comparitively more fatigued/with withdrawal symptoms. If you reduce/abstain from caffeine for a few days the extra receptors are reduced and you return to baseline.

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            23 days ago

            That’s basically the same thing. When you feel sleepy, you aren’t at the end of your reserves. Your body tells you that you are sleepy at a time when you still have reserves.

            Blocking these receptors doesn’t tap into any magic hidden energy, it just stops your body from telling you that you are running on fumes. Thus it allows you to go farther into your reserves. In extreme cases to the point where you collapse, because you really don’t have any reserves left.

            Edit: Just to be clear, going into your reserves is not a good or healthy thing. It’s not some magical potential unlocker or something, but it’s running your body under circumstances it’s not made for. If you use caffeine when you really should be sleeping, that’s short-term ok, but can lead to some serious consequences in the long term.

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        23 days ago

        Some people are more or less sensitive to caffeine. Going from one coffee a day to zero has me with headaches and tiredness for a day or two.

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          My dad is an alcoholic and I’m convinced that I’ve inherited certain vulnerabilities to addiction. I’ve never had a problem with alcohol, but by God, when I get into a regular full-caf coffee habit, and then I miss one or two cups, the withdrawal symptoms hit me hard. I’ve been trying to slowly lower my ratio, but it’s hard to even contemplate going totally decaf when I’ve got a retail job and I’m a little scared of trying to deal with customers and withdrawal headaches at the same time.