I mostly agree with the sentiment of this video, but it’s highly biased I feel. On a utilitarian level, everything Muta is criticizing about Windows is absolutely valid. But even as a very experienced desktop computer user, as someone who does not have coding experience or any formal education in the technical side of computing, there are parts of Linux that just cause me to get hung up. If you’re someone who likes to customize deeply and change a lot of really small stuff, you run into rocky patches very fast. Now, I agree that almost anything is possible on Linux, but it’s about the amount of effort it sometimes takes.
For the average user, when they want to change some seemingly basic features, things that aren’t in the settings, eventually, one way or another, you have to use commands. You have to use the terminal for something or other. Some dependency, some change that needs a command to activate. And even if all of that is wrong, and you technically CAN change or acquire everything you need without ever opening the terminal, the problem is that a new user is not going to be able to find a simple answer in a few minutes.
Even with the help of AI, it can still take a long time to troubleshoot what may seem like a basic issue. And like it or not, that matters if you’re trying to get people to switch. People, realistically, can’t be expected to always just “shut up and do the research”. Anyone who’s not a techie, or someone with a lot of patience, is going to run out of gas for this troubleshooting very quickly. I wish I had more suggestions about how to actually fix these problems, but I know that for me they are the main reason I can’t permanently switch from Windows at this point. We’re getting closer, but there is a long road still ahead.
I really feel like I should do a video of doing basic things in windows vs linux because its redic how slow my windows laptop is relative to linux and it is so not hardware.
I switched to Linux because of Blender and because the program behaves way better on its native OS, so practically speaking if you don’t have any serious reason to switch to it then don’t do it, I know Windows 11 is not very good, no problem go back in windows 10, many people ask about switching on Linux as if they really have to!
I never understood the argument of “if it’s not in the UI you may need to use a command to achieve it and it’s scary”.
On windows, if it’s not in the UI you have to use either a powershell command or update the registry to change it - which are both a very similar experience.
The only difference I actually see in this point is that Linux has a lot more options.
yeah and honestly that sounds like something from a decade ago. I find things are not in the linux ui at the level things are not in the windows ui and if anything more run into having to do registry or powershell with windows. much more often I can find an install in linux that will give me the ui if its not already.
I often had to go to the registry on Windows and the registry is way less user friendly than modifying files on Linux. When we say that we have to use the terminal for more complicated things on Linux, it’s usually just modifying files that are well commented so you know exactly what you’re doing. If you can read of course which isn’t always a given.
For sure there are scripts and 3rd party apps that can modify the registry, but you can have the same thing on Linux too.
And today with how advanced KDE and Gnome are, the user needs to go less and less in the files. Almost everything I do is in the home folder too. I require root less and less, mainly to install packages.
I think it mainly comes down with what users are used to. People are used to the quirks of Windows, so Linux becomes scary and hard. If it was the other way around, Windows would be considered to be complicated. That’s my take.
In Windows there are tools or 3rd party softwares available to customize literally almost anything. There’s plenty on Linux that I couldn’t say the same for. Granted I may not know where to look in some cases and may have missed it, or it may simply be a result of my lack of experience with Linux in general. But the point is that a new user’s first impressions matter, and if someone who isn’t comfortable doing commands and using non-GUI tools is forced to use them all the time, their patience may run thin faster than others. I believe people should want to learn and they should do the research. But realistically, if the goal is to get as many users to adopt Linux as possible, this is a barrier to entry.
It’s fine to watch people critique Linux and compare it with Windows, but in my honest opinion, Mutahar is not worth your time.
Yeah I mostly agree. It’s been made pretty clear by not only this post but just watching Mutahar’s content in the past that he likes to sound more educated than he is. On many topics, not just Linux and computing. This video just happened to spark some thought for me and I felt like putting it into words. I just didn’t think about people’s perception of the actual content creator because I feel like this could have been a conversation even without referencing the video at all.
What’s so bad about using commands?
I stopped being a fan of Mutahar a while back…but am I really the only person who noted the upload date?
I can’t help but wonder how those people you speak of use a computer at all tbh, when windows requires troublehooting as well, especially with how much of a buggy mess windows 11 is.
It’s not even about which OS is easier to troubleshoot. The case I’m making is that there is progress that is needed to be made on Linux’s part to help people understand it as easily as they do on Windows. Let’s not even pretend that it’s easier to troubleshoot Linux than it is to troubleshoot Windows (I know you’re not specifically saying this but comparing which is easier is something a new user absolutely takes into account). It definitely would be easier if you’ve used Linux for longer, obviously. But for those who haven’t ever tried it, but want to, then do so, have problems and begin troubleshooting, it can feel like a labyrinth and be extremely overwhelming. I’m only trying to convey that despite the progress Linux has made over the years, it is still out of the reach of many people. As I keep saying, people SHOULD take the time to learn. It would be great and beneficial, but a lot people just can’t invest the time.
Hoping this is scripted and a joke.
Dude has zero idea how computers work, and is presenting as a “tech person”?
Use whatever you want, but don’t be an ignorant asshole and put shit like this out of you have no concept of the topic aslt hand.
What a dumbass.
Don’t know if you’re talking to me or Mutahar, but this is exactly what people can’t stand about some Linux users. It’s why the stereotype of “gatekeeper” Linux users exists. Because instead of engaging with the discussion in any way, you got triggered and decided to yell insults over the internet. That’s pretty fucking sad.
And to be clear, I don’t like Mutahar much either. He’s very biased and I usually don’t watch his stuff. I was bored and clicked on this video. I also try to make a habit of watching creators I have an aversion to, because I want to avoid confirmation bias. Not trying to present as holier than thou, just being honest.
I usually don’t watch his stuff.
And it seems you didn’t watch this video fully either, or you weren’t paying attention. Muta’s an idiot and a tool who routinely masks inability to do anything with drama… Because he’s not very good at any of it.
He doesn’t dig into the reasons for any of his issues and readily admits that he just wants it done for him “I just want things to work”
The real problem with this post is you! Coming here casting this as some fundamental problem with Linux and posting it. Why bother?
Casting this as some kind of fundamental problem with Linux? Did I say that? I literally said nothing of the sort. Stop putting words in my mouth. I agree with what you said about Muta. Like I keep saying, I don’t usually watch his content, I’m just open minded enough to give any video a chance if it’s a relevant topic, and this one happened to spark some thought for me. You’re literally exemplifying the “gatekeeper” behavior I’m talking about. I don’t think it’s as widespread as some people make it out to be, but when your response to a post that is EXPLICITLY asking to discuss a very common complaint about Linux is to just shift the focus onto the content creator because you don’t like him, you’re not making it easy for new users to feel like this is a community they want to engage with.
Mutahar’s video is not the crux of what I’m discussing AT ALL. It just so happens that seeing the video reminded me of these criticism which I already had. I could have posted this whole thread without the video and had a nearly identical conversation. The difference is that we wouldn’t have to waste time talking about Muta, when the conversation is about Linux. Which is not a perfect OS. Nor is Windows, or ANY OS. Talking about this stuff is how we try to figure out how to improve them.
It’s not about “Linux Users”, it’s the fact that the issues described are MIS-identified because the operator who claims to be proficient in technology has zero idea what in the hell they are talking about.
Knowing how to navigate the Windows OS is like 2% of what a “technology guru” (this guy said it) needs to be fluent in. Windows in 2026 is more irrelevant than it ever has been since 3.1, and this guy is acting like becau6his fluency is in Windows he’s has some knowledge about computers in general.
He then goes to explain IN DEPTH AND DETAIL how he does not.
Rag on me all you want, but this is not a Linux person being a gatekeeper or withholding. This is a person with little technical knowledge missing the point and misrepresenting themselves.
Fuck this guy.
Should anyone care what a lying, youtube-drama scumbag thinks of Linux? I think no.
The problem with this idea is that you could basically summarize it as being “difficult as a new user to make advanced changes”.
Your average non-technical user does great on Linux. There’s nothing to unlearn from Windows. Its the Windows “power users” that crash and burn because they keep trying to force Windows logic into a non-Windows environment, get upset about it, complain it doesn’t work, and then leave.
I’m not sure what basic feature you’re referring to, but if you are installing dependencies than that is not a basic feature. That is additional software that probably maintains its own configuration. I would also argue that a non-technical user, much like they would in Windows, is not going to be trying to make changes like that anyway.
In the end, I think this is the real issue:
But even as a very experienced desktop computer user…
No, you are not a very experienced desktop computer user, you are an experienced Windows user. In Linux, you are a new user trying to leverage the non-applicable OS you came from and struggling because of that.
I agree with all of this. I am an experienced Windows user who wants to use an OS I can actually feel good about supporting, that respects privacy and isn’t run by a greedy corporation. My Windows experience does not translate to Linux literacy. But that doesn’t change the fact that advocating for Linux to become easier to use, even potentially as easy to use as something like Windows, should be something we can all agree would be a positive change. Retaining the best parts of Linux and making it easy to use are not mutually exclusive goals. They shouldn’t be.
I’m just spit balling here. Is it possible that the intent of this post is not to have a discussion about OSs but to boost the YouTube views? It’s just a vibe I’m getting. New account, very eager to reply, posting this out of the blue.
If the video is on YouTube, they make a thumbnail pulling a dumb face, and it gets presented in a forum like this with a whiff of controversy about it, personally, I’ll refuse to look at it.
Genuinely, this was not posted to boost the video. The video’s only role in this is that I watched it and it was what made me think about the subject, so I made the post. Don’t read too much into it.
Correction: so you made a new account on this instance and then posted it.
Is there something wrong with making a new account to make a discussion post about a video? Is this not a forum website? This is ridiculous behavior. I’ve been respectful and open to every single person I’ve responded to. I am not creating drama or name calling. If there’s drama being created on this post, it’s because people can’t stand Mutahar. And I agree with them! But as someone who refuses to be an ideologue living in an echo chamber, I watch content from sources I don’t agree with too, and I discuss it. I don’t get what problem you have with this.
