Ok I’m going to be that guy who sounds like a musk fanboy but rest assured I fucking hate that Nazi. That said, people don’t care about spacex launches because they have become so routine as to be boring.in a historical context there came a point where people stopped caring about airplanes because they stopped crashing. This is good. Rockets becoming reliable enough to become boring and routine is a net gain for humanity. I just wish spacex weren’t owned by that goose stepping fascist
Youngsters don’t realize that people became fucking bored with the Apollo missions after 11. Apollo 13 generated some buzz because the crew was probably going to die, but that’s it. Same thing happened with the space shuttle.
I think NASA and SpaceX might fit different personality types. Cool new tech in a bit more of a “startup” type of environment/culture/pace vs. slow-moving government work with lots of beaurocracy. Some people thrive in one and hate working in the other.
(Just a guess based on experience in “tech”. I don’t actually know what it’s like to work for either)
Well also personally I lost interest because I got sick of Elon time. I’m pretty sure by his estimate we were supposed to have megastructures by now.
It’s also worth noting that reusable rockets are interesting but if they just go up deploy satellite and then come back down that’s not very interesting compared to going to the moon.
I know SpaceX are supposed to be building a lunar lander but we’ve heard nothing about that for years now. Where is it, Artemis III is going to need it in less than a year. Have they even started construction?
The re-useability is also mainly a marketing point. It sounds cool on paper but SpaceX only reduces the cost by 10% discount when utilizing old boosters. The usefulness of cost savings is overblown.
Ain’t that the truth for everything E Musk produces.
And it could be so great, done properly.
He’s giving electric cars and reusable rockets a bad rep actually.
I’ll preface this by saying I hate musk as much as the rest of us.
But reusable rockets have better uses than deploying satellites. If a large space station/docking station/transport hub is built in higher orbit, reusable rockets could carry cargo to/from Earth’s surface.
Slight tangent:
They can be designed better to reduce chemical fuel consumption. Like a 5-phased operation: takeoff->ramjet->scramjet to get reach hypersonic speeds in the upper atmosphere -> then only using enough rocket fuel for orbital insertion -> finally changing to ion thrusters to reach the higher levels of orbit.
Instead of just straight burning rocket fuel from surface to upper orbit, let alone to the moon and back.
Stage two could involve using solar sails to travel from the Earth’s upper-orbit transport hub to a similar hub located at a Lagrange point in lunar orbit. (This is optimized around the full moon; return voyages would be optimized around the new moon, when the earth is “downwind” from the sun and moon).
Stage three would be from lunar orbit station to lunar surface; a simple lander can handle this pretty efficiently. This eliminates the need to carry lunar landers to/from earth on every voyage.
Expansion:
Similar systems could apply for interplanetary transit (eventually), but the solar sails might only work one-way for those (returning from venus/mercury, or going out to mars/jupiter/saturn); so another solution would need to be engineered for the other leg of those journeys.
We stopped the space exploration shit on our own and I suspect the lack of interest in Artemis has less to do with Elon blowing rockets up, sending a car into space, and using it as another portal for him to be the biggest fucking government welfare grifter of all time… and more to do with the fact that a lot of us are stressed, starving, and/or worried about the near future.
The fuck does slingshotting around the moon do right now to help us? Does it bring pedophiles to justice? Does it give us hope? Nope. I was jealous that they got to leave this God forsaken burning bullshit planet for a few days.
Nothing good is happening at the moment.
The bread is stale.
We’ve all seen the circus shows.
I’m tired. I’m angry. I don’t give a fuck about space.
I wouldn’t be into SpaceX if it were owned by the nicest capitalist on Earth. I just want one thing to be free from capitalist exploitation. Swiftly followed by everything else.
Ok I’m going to be that guy who sounds like a musk fanboy but rest assured I fucking hate that Nazi. That said, people don’t care about spacex launches because they have become so routine as to be boring.in a historical context there came a point where people stopped caring about airplanes because they stopped crashing. This is good. Rockets becoming reliable enough to become boring and routine is a net gain for humanity. I just wish spacex weren’t owned by that goose stepping fascist
Youngsters don’t realize that people became fucking bored with the Apollo missions after 11. Apollo 13 generated some buzz because the crew was probably going to die, but that’s it. Same thing happened with the space shuttle.
Agreed. I think people need to understand that Musk isn’t a scientist, he’s just the money. The actual people working at SpaceX are doing great stuff.
Maybe they should go work for NASA and not a fucking Nazi.
I think NASA and SpaceX might fit different personality types. Cool new tech in a bit more of a “startup” type of environment/culture/pace vs. slow-moving government work with lots of beaurocracy. Some people thrive in one and hate working in the other.
(Just a guess based on experience in “tech”. I don’t actually know what it’s like to work for either)
Well also personally I lost interest because I got sick of Elon time. I’m pretty sure by his estimate we were supposed to have megastructures by now.
It’s also worth noting that reusable rockets are interesting but if they just go up deploy satellite and then come back down that’s not very interesting compared to going to the moon.
I know SpaceX are supposed to be building a lunar lander but we’ve heard nothing about that for years now. Where is it, Artemis III is going to need it in less than a year. Have they even started construction?
This exactly. Musk has been talking ginormic shit for decades, and delivered peanuts. Destroying the USA in the process.
How good is the re-usability even going? That’s the only plus I see wrt SpaceX.
The re-useability is also mainly a marketing point. It sounds cool on paper but SpaceX only reduces the cost by 10% discount when utilizing old boosters. The usefulness of cost savings is overblown.
Ain’t that the truth for everything E Musk produces.
And it could be so great, done properly.
He’s giving electric cars and reusable rockets a bad rep actually.
I’ll preface this by saying I hate musk as much as the rest of us.
But reusable rockets have better uses than deploying satellites. If a large space station/docking station/transport hub is built in higher orbit, reusable rockets could carry cargo to/from Earth’s surface.
Slight tangent:
They can be designed better to reduce chemical fuel consumption. Like a 5-phased operation: takeoff->ramjet->scramjet to get reach hypersonic speeds in the upper atmosphere -> then only using enough rocket fuel for orbital insertion -> finally changing to ion thrusters to reach the higher levels of orbit.
Instead of just straight burning rocket fuel from surface to upper orbit, let alone to the moon and back.
Stage two could involve using solar sails to travel from the Earth’s upper-orbit transport hub to a similar hub located at a Lagrange point in lunar orbit. (This is optimized around the full moon; return voyages would be optimized around the new moon, when the earth is “downwind” from the sun and moon).
Stage three would be from lunar orbit station to lunar surface; a simple lander can handle this pretty efficiently. This eliminates the need to carry lunar landers to/from earth on every voyage.
Expansion:
Similar systems could apply for interplanetary transit (eventually), but the solar sails might only work one-way for those (returning from venus/mercury, or going out to mars/jupiter/saturn); so another solution would need to be engineered for the other leg of those journeys.
We stopped the space exploration shit on our own and I suspect the lack of interest in Artemis has less to do with Elon blowing rockets up, sending a car into space, and using it as another portal for him to be the biggest fucking government welfare grifter of all time… and more to do with the fact that a lot of us are stressed, starving, and/or worried about the near future.
The fuck does slingshotting around the moon do right now to help us? Does it bring pedophiles to justice? Does it give us hope? Nope. I was jealous that they got to leave this God forsaken burning bullshit planet for a few days.
Nothing good is happening at the moment. The bread is stale. We’ve all seen the circus shows.
I’m tired. I’m angry. I don’t give a fuck about space.
Another E Musk company. (sorry, couldn’t resist)
But isn’t “going further than ever before (humaned)” a bit different from “launching another dozen or so satellites into orbit”?
I wouldn’t be into SpaceX if it were owned by the nicest capitalist on Earth. I just want one thing to be free from capitalist exploitation. Swiftly followed by everything else.