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        13 hours ago

        She’s made multiple comics making fun of men’s mental health issues, she very much seems to have it in for men in general.

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          Having scrolled through a couple years of her comics just to see for myself I think she’s mostly just anti-MAGA and occasionally overshoots a little into common men’s issues she has a blind spot for.

          I don’t think she’s misandrist she’s just not perfect.

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          I have you tagged “the reason women choose the bear” over your behavior the last time that came up - you have a long long history of being an incel and claiming any criticism of a man is criticism of all men, which you’re doing yet again in this thread.

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              For the most part I like lemmy, but the community is incredibly incel-heavy. One of the most successful forms of bait on here (besides political trolling) is posting any even slightly contentious topic about women’s experiences in society or things like institutional sexism. Seriously, keep an eye out - it’s depressingly predictable.

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            13 hours ago

            What a random mischaracterization, feels like I’ve been mistaken for somebody. Theres really nothing to even respond to, here, except point out ad hominem.

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              13 hours ago

              Criticism of a person’s behavior when that’s the subject at hand is not an ad homeniem, it’s the argument. You’ve got a long history of misapplying logical fallacies and taking these sorts of commentaries where a man is portrayed negatively incredibly personally and then poorly defending your claims.

              For example: elsewhere in this thread, where you’ve refused to back up your claims that the author is a “well documented” misandrist. If it’s well documented, it should not be a burden for you to provide evidence, and yet you refuse repeatedly.

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                13 hours ago

                Criticism of the criticism of a person’s behavior, via attacking the person and not the argument, is Ad Hominem, and also Whataboutism.

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                  Saying it does not make it so. It seems to me that referencing your prior behavior and attacking your lack of sources are both relevant and productive for discussion, while misusing fallacies to shut down arguments you don’t like is, ironically, a rhetorical fallacy. They aren’t deflecting by randomly bringing up some unrelated characteristic (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food, I have it on good authority that they’re a terrible parent!), they’re calling back to your previous behavior in similar situations (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food because they have a history of giving people food poisoning!). That isn’t ad hominem, or whataboutism.

                  If your character and actions might be damming to your arguments, attacking them is attacking your argument, especially when also attacking your sources! Ironically, continuing to attack the comic artist without citing sources is ad hominem, by definition.

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                  13 hours ago

                  I’m directly criticizing two separate things: your behavior, and your claim that pizzacake is a well documented misandrist. That your behavior is remarkably predictable around these issues doesn’t invalidate your claim; we get the conclusion that your claim is baseless from the way you refuse to support it.

                  Neither of those are an ad hominem or a whattaboutism, and you would be well served by finding out what those terms represent before you try and defend yourself with them.

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          i only found recipe results for pizza cake and i have no interest in reaching out to her on whatever other social media platform im not on

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              Are you taking her anti trump comics to be anti men? Your search screenshot in a different thread was just for controversy, not misandry as you initially claimed. I’ve seen several pro lgbt comics from her, so saying she’s anti equality seems disingenuous.

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      It’s particularly ironic as OP was the one making a song and dance about wanting all comics from bigoted artists banned the other day.

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        With Jago it was really simple. Someone put the bigoted comics in the comments and it was really easy to see they were bigoted.

        With PizzaCake it’s a whole thing! The people who don’t like her refuse to give any evidence. It’s almost like the evidence doesn’t exist.

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          I remember one comic of hers was pretty tone deaf and caused a bit of a stir:

          Not sure how to find it, but it was supposed to be a “imagine if women acted like this to men” as a way to point out problematic behaviors men have, but instead of picking things that never happen to men for the point to land she used things that actually already happen to men. This showed she was apparently unaware the reversal was true instead of ridiculous which, yikes.

          That’s the only thing I’m aware of though so not sure about “well documented”. Maybe there’s some social media posts that people didn’t like or something? That’s as much light as I can shed on the situation.

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            I think this is the one.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/

            I get what she’s aiming at but it’s a complete miss in my opinion. Men absolutely get mocked for all of those issues.

            The getting robbed reaction is also true of men who’ve been raped or sexually assaulted.

            I’m not convinced she’s a full on misandrist but she’s had some bad takes. Hard not to have some misses when you’ve made that much content.

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        Having frequent or traumatic experiences with members of a group is not a good reason to hate that group at all unless it’s actually the group’s defining feature directly causing it, and it’s their own choice.

        That’s different to suffering from trauma as a result, which obviously you can’t control, and might result in some behaviour that looks similar on the surface.