I love how corpos can just change the rules at will.
Edit: New prices:
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing/models-and-pricing
And if you look at the old pricing structure, some of the models are increasing by 27x
I mean, if AI gets too expensive, companies can always hire juniors to replace them 🤣
When the junior devs get too expensive they can outsource all of their software development to Bangladesh
When offshore-sourced code gets too shitty they can hire some senior engineers to rebuild it in a way that’s compatible with the rest of their ecosystem.
Which brings the model back to AI. All businesses have accomplished was basically add an extra step in actually forcing themselves to pay for what they actually need every so often. Instead of Sr>jr>offshore>sr. they now just added in AI to the loop.
Not that charlatans care, as long as they get theirs in the interim.
Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).
holy shit, 9x the previous cost. which was already not great. I was on the fence about cancelling it, but thanks for making up my mind, MS
That’s been their business model for a while now. “Here’s something you also didn’t ask for”
Which is a crime, by the way, when you sell it together with a product you hold a monopoly for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)
Yeah, but on the other hand look at the ballroom they’ve donated to (for completely non-corrupt reasons).
I love that their email made it sound like it was a wash, like “we’re just changing our billing model, you’ll get credits now, samesies!” but then this pricing chart buried 3-levels down from the announcement lays out just how much less you’re going to get for the same price.
I wonder about all the startups who were bragging about their $10k/month AI coding bills being the best money they ever spent. When this new pricing kicks in and pushes it to $40k/month right around the time all the vibe-coded shit blows up their codebase, I wonder if they’ll still be so happy with their choices.
I interviewed for a place a while back and started asking about quality and velocity and how they balance it with AI developer tools, he said something like “One of our developers closed 400 PRs last month” and I instantly knew it was definitely not the place for me.
I wonder about all the startups who were bragging about their $10k/month AI coding bills being the best money they ever spent.
WTF did they think was going to happen?
So, did they use AI tools to type “LGTM” 400 times or nah?
But yeah, I also find that frustrating. Management just looks at terrible metrics like PRs closed or lines of code produced.
It’s not even novel that you can produce terrible code very quickly. Decades ago, our industry learned that it isn’t worth it, because you suffer for it later. Now the game is altered slightly and management demands that we throw all these learnings out the window.
They should really describe this as you’re on the same plan, but your plan gives you 80-88% less use.
These tech companies are a bunch of criminals. I fucking hate this industry.
You’re looking at Claude, I don’t See Copilot
Edit: ignore me, I finally reviewed the article and is through GH, not actual MS 365 page.
copilot isnt a model. its a front end that lets you pick a model. that table shows usage costs.
Tale as old as time. Corpos try to get you dependent and then give your business an atomic wedgie.
The good news is that none of the companies pushing these products have created the dependency yet, and they are running out of venture capital almost too fast to have the option.
I really hope you’re right. My employer is using it as a crutch. I don’t think they can stop using AI because they just don’t have enough skilled employees to deliver on their commitments. They would pay nearly any price, and I’m sure they’re not alone.
watch me go back to debugging like a real engineer: copying and pasting from stack overflow
Stack overflow is not what it used to be
at this rate, it will be
Amen
Gonna be hilarious when the people who haven’t been paying attention realize that they just replaced workers with shit that doesn’t work AND actually costs more.
Yep, I’ve been telling anyone who’ll listen that if you really want to drop juniors and give tools to seniors, then you have to pay the monthly cost (whatever it will be) and you have to be ready to foot the big bill in 5 years when your seniors (with no candidate replacements) say they’ll take a 50% raise or walk.
This is the right way to go. This will incentivize many companies to rethink their strategy, and slow down or scale down AI adoption. After that and the revenue drops for many AI companies, they will back off purchasing all possible RAM and storage in existence which will drive down pricing. And when the prices get to normal again, we will simply buy more RAM for our local machines and run free models.
This news kinda makes me happy. Shit’s starting to fall apart. Finally.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GithubCopilot/ right now is entertaining
The tears are delicious
Just as open weight models are getting good. Qwen 3.6 27B just dropped with claimed performance approaching Opus 4.6, but it can run on a Mac with a M-series SoC. I tested it out today on a M4 Pro with Ollama and Cline and was impressed with its reasoning, but it was slow. Going to try with llama.cpp tomorrow and mess around tweaking it for speed.
https://ai.rs/ai-developer/qwen-3-6-27b-local-coding-model
AI coding agents are useful, but it’s time for the cloud-based models to chill out so we can get cheap RAM again to run our shit locally.
It’s almost like buying all the RAM so most people can only afford subscription services is the point.
Think of it like a happy little coincidence
So, if you subscribe to the $10/ month plan you get $10 worth of tokens to use within a month, and if you subscribe to the $49/month plan you get $49 worth of tokens to use within a month.
At this point why subscribe? Just pay directly the tokens so if you use less you pay less.
To me it doesn’t make sense to subscribe at $49 and maybe use $30 of tokens.
People were subscribing at the $49 plan because they were using $1000 in tokens worth
People were subscribing at the $49 plan because they were using $1000 in tokens worth
Companies were just eating that $951/mo loss so they could gain market share by burning their nearly endless pile of capital.
Now were on the cusp of the bubble bursting so the dominant players are now trying to extract revenue via rapid enshittification.
It’s not price fixing, that would be illegal, it just so happens that they’re all changing their business model at the same time. If they were doing illegal things there would be an investigation.
In completely unrelated news, didn’t you see the nice ballroom plans?
👉 💥 💥 GET DOWN DID SOMEONE SAY BALLROOM
How else are they going to begin to recap their billions and billions of debt? Someone has to pay for all those data centres, all that hardware, all that power, etc etc etc. It will be the companies that have come to rely on AI.
Sure, for now, AI is a lot cheaper than an intern, but it doesn’t become an expert like a human does. And Amazon used to be cheaper than other retailers right up until they had achieved vast market share.
This cannot be the last 10x price multiplier they pull. Not even close. Firstly they’re way, way, way off from recouping their costs, and secondly, they’re still way, way off market value for an incompetent human intern who isn’t learning much.
Uber didn’t enter the market to open up taxis to new drivers and bring down prices, that was marketing. They entered the market to take a cut out of ever taxi fare in the world, and drive up prices at peak times to many times the agreed fares, especially in regulated areas.
Similarly, AI didn’t enter the coding market to drive down prices and enable greater access for folk to generate code. They entered the coding market to receive the wages of programmers and drive up prices in in-demand fields. They are not unaware of how much companies pay devs. Why else would they have spent all those billions in advance? Where is the payback coming from?
Getting de-skilled is starting to look like a very expensive gamble and this is just the first price hike, expect more to come. And expect them to criminalize open source models as well with some national security concerns or something.
Inline completions are genuinely useful, I’m mostly replacing them with local models though. They are slower but free as in beer (once you pay the hardware cost).
I’m interested in setting it up, are you using vs code? Which extension or editor?
I’m using vim with minuet-ai, and it plugs the AI suggestion into my completion module. I found the Copilot style virtual text interfaces all janky.
I tried AI auto-complete for maybe 6 months. I found that mistakes and hard to find bugs increased, actually lowering my productivity. I find that actually just typing everything (well, with traditional LSP) gives me more time to think about my code, the architecture, etc while I’m typing, leading to better results. “Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.”
So, not free. Just capital expense instead of operational.
Sure, but hopefully small code completion (2-4b range) models can run locally on a lot of things. They’re just less good.
Of course it is… Funny though, bc nobody really uses it at work, so our pricing should theoretically go down… But I doubt it, MS will find a way to make it go up
Well, base prices stay the same. They seem to just be billing more per usage on top of that…
they are probably going to reskin copilot, or not even name it so people wont notice it.
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You could also just not use these services. You don’t need them. They were a stupid idea to begin with.
You could also just not use these services.
I do need RAM, though.
Fortunately, I got pretty well stocked up before this shit, but the hardware I’ve got now will fail eventually.
It’s why I only use the free versions of these lol
