• pineapple@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    I don’t follow this as a justification for piracy. Piracy isn’t stealing but, assuming if it was not possible to pirate you were going to pay for the game, you are still causing the person who owns the game to lose money they would have otherwise gained.

    My justification is much simpler: capitalists suck, buying games supports capitalists so I’m keeping my money.

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        20 days ago

        theft definition

        1. To take illegally, or without the owner’s permission, something owned by someone else without intending to return it.

        It’s hard for me to say weather this definition encompasses piracy or not. Although I would err to the side of piracy not being stealing, since media isn’t physical.

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    21 days ago

    I don’t really care if it is stealing. Steal all you want. The random dude making the modern day equivalent of a flash game is certainly not counting on game sales to make ends meet, and the corporations can get fucked and die.

    :)

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        21 days ago

        And that’s fine because the assumption behind “Indie” is they did all the hardwork themselves without getting paid regularly. Consider 500k is not a lot if you count how many months of work was put into the games without pay.

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          21 days ago

          We’re not mad about them hitting the nat 20 😂 we’re mad it was assumed they made zero money so it doesn’t matter if we pirate from them lol hungry devs needa eat fat cat Microsoft can suffer the thousand cuts lol

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            19 days ago

            yeah my position is to be very clear that we are not against making money but about unsatiable greed shown from the likes of ubisoft or microslop.

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    21 days ago

    I used to be philosophically anti-piracy in principle, and would often argue online against people who posted disingenuous or self-serving justifications for their actions. But these days the amount of piss-taking by the publishers has destroyed my resolve.

    Yarrr.

  • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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    21 days ago

    Orrr

    Just get games with a free software license.

    Then you both own it and did not pay. :)

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      21 days ago

      Better for security too. A game is a full program and can do basically anything on your computer. I don’t even trust games from legit sources to run on my main OS. So if you pirate a game at the very least run it in a VM.

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    20 days ago

    fun fact, pirating the game means you actually own it I have repacked drm free pirated versions of games I own just in case i lose access to them or they get shut down

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    20 days ago

    I am just paying a different entity that provides the same “service” for cheaper at the cost of my sense of security.

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    21 days ago

    ​I used to have a hard time sharing the things I bought with the piracy community

    It just felt wrong to give things away to people who hadn’t paid a thing. I felt like I was hurting the creators who actually put in the work

    ​But then I realized I was guarding something that wasn’t even mine, all I bought was a license that could be revoked at any time… it never truly belonged to me

    I was just being selfish. Now every now and then I make sure to share the content I purchase

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    21 days ago

    Anyway, Nintendo and Xbox have colossal fortunes; I don’t think pirating one of their games is going to bankrupt them.

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    21 days ago

    All games are technically licensed or something like that. I can’t remember precisely how, but software is licensed and pirating is considered “breach of contract”, not stealing. You shouldn’t take my word for it because idk what I’m talking about. All I know is rich people hate it, so fuck’em!!

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      21 days ago

      Pirating is copyright infringement. In other words, you infringed on the rights of the copyright owner to dictate how their “copy” is used. In this case, the term “copy” is being used as in “collection of writing”, not the common colloquial synonym for “duplicate” - copyright was invented before video games, after all ;)

      So in other words: no it’s never been theft

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        21 days ago

        So in other words: no it’s never been theft

        Yes. It was (and is) the other kind of legal offence. A copyright infringement, as you described exhaustively.

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      21 days ago

      No, i legitimately bought it. You saying “it’s actually merely a usage license” is not my concern, yell at the shop that sold it with some fineprint somewhere.

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      21 days ago

      conceptually how can i violate a license i’m not party to? (idk what i’m talking about either but i like pretending)

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        21 days ago

        Because use of the product comes with an agreement.

        And no, you can’t “la-la-la, I’m not listening to this agreement, I’m not seeing it” your way out of it.