This is what happens when you elect morons to legislate technology they dont understand.
Don’t give them that grace. They might not understand it, but the tech-bro lobbiest sure as shit explained it to them in simple terms no doubt.
More ways to control our lives and track our movements.
“Party of small government”.
Personally, I would stop using any site that did this. We all know nothing matters in this country but money. Companies stop making as much, they’ll get legislation changed.
We need debit cards that aren’t tethered to banking institutions which are bound to enforce this shit on their apps/websites.
Also, isn’t legislating against VPN usage just a new way to legislate over the rights of people who don’t live in your state? Because, how is a company going to prove whether you’re in California or Utah using a California based VPN? They won’t care… They’ll just enforce that everyone bides by Utah law, regardless of your origin.
They may have been at one point but they def stopped once Thiel and other big technocrats got involved
But spoofing a phone number and harassing me all day isn’t worth solutioning. This Gov. is not representing us.
The Biden admin was about to regulate data brokers but then Trump happened.
They’re always “about to” but never seem to do it.
If one “side” fixed anything they would not only lose the backing of their corporate sponsors, they wouldn’t be able to point to the problem anymore and say they’ll fix it to round up some votes before promptly going back to ignoring or supporting what they campaigned on stopping.
Yet another Biden failure! When will that guy stop causing all our problems?! Thanks Biden! /s
I’ve learned a little bit of multiple languages to answer the phone in a foreign language. It absolutely fucks with the scammer on the other end because they are expecting an English speaker.
I mostly ignore calls from unknown numbers, but if I ever answer any I do something similar, but I use gibberish.
“Hello sir, I’m calling to see if you are aware of the latest energy deals in your area?”
I respond with something like: ‘Ha felth malak nakufi parament, cheeshan bah farkone.’
I then get very animatedly exasperated with them if they can’t understand me.
‘BISHAN TA FALAF TOOSH? MAIR PUNAN TA FALAS!!! EDGEKA, EDGEKA MALA!!!’
I never end the call, always keep going until they do, which is often pretty quickly these days unfortunately, because I’ve started to kind of enjoy playing with them.
Occasionally if it’s clearly a scam call rather than a spam call and I have time, I’ll actually pretend to play along dumbly to see how long I can keep them on the line. All time record is 49 minutes during the pandemic lockdown (I was bored). The guy finally caught on and released a barrage of expletives and wished me death. It was awesome!
If you do anything OTHER than ignore them, your number gets marked as “active” and then sold to other scammers. I roll my eyes at the people who gleefully brag about all the ways they “fuck with spammers” without realizing that by simply answering the phone, they have already given them what they want. Sure, the low level worker on the phone (who might actually be a slave) might want you to fall for a scam and give them money, but the people running these call centers are perfectly fine if all they get is confirmation that you have an active number which can then be sold to other call centers.
Stop answering spam/scam calls.
if they are so concerned about children, how about doing something about the mormon church and the fucking horrible crimes that are committed against women and children in it?
Or the king tjey elected
Nah they support that.
If I were a lawyer arguing against the law in court, my primary argument would be that this violates the interstate commerce section of the US Constitution.
looks at the scotus playbook
yeah that falls in between ‘nuhh uh’ and ‘don’t care’.
only problem is, it’s gonna get upheld 6-3
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I bet you a dollar that all of them are technologically illiterate.
It’s not just that, it’s that they don’t care. People keep assuming it’s solely based on a lack of knowledge but the real point is establishing consequences to prevent the things that can’t fight it from existing to begin.
They’ll decline to go after the websites they as lawmakers use themselves, but will instead hit up independent things that can’t afford to fight back and will just close when contacted.
i mean, how are we defining tech illiteracy? they have heard of the twitter, okay?
I think politicians have special law right to avoid that consequences of their actions.
Citizens also have special action that leds them bypass laws.
It’s called anarchy to some, and full-on revolution to others.
It seems like it’s just a matter of time until the US has it’s own red firewall.
Not just a US thing. EU is pushing for much more restrictive measures regarding mandatory ID registration. And it will be EU-wide for us. US will most likely be much better in that regard from 2027 onward, since only a few states seem to change things.
For now, They’re trying to do it federally as well.
Have they thought about passing a law that checks to see if the people making the law have an IQ above 50?
This is the dumbest, most waste of time bullshit particularly when the rest of the country is imploding. Maybe they should focus on things that matter.
Maybe they should focus on things that matter.
That requires effort. Something Republicans are incapable of doing unless it involves consolidating control over other’s lives.
So how do they plan on figuring out if any given user behind a VPN is in Utah?
Age and identity verification. Unfortunately selling user data is profitable, so I think this will become more common.
So let’s cripple websites that have VPN users… Lmao. Dumbest fucking government ever.
We can just add a few thousand tor nodes too. Not sure how they will ever enforce this.
Maybe we should just start blocking Utah like folks block North Korea. Utahans clearly want only Facebook and MySpace, and it’s rude of us to second-guess.
Russia’s VPN crackdown disrupts banks, marketplaces and government services
And so if I’m in Utah as a traveller I can’t check my local news by vpn? Ok
Every website would be better served to come up with a way to block all IP ranges that come out of Utah ISPs. Better to just block the whole state than try to play this game.
And the reverse too, spam the state servers with age-unverified connections and then file a complaint against the state.
I remember the days before corporations started to see the internet as a sales and advertising platform and governments allowed it to grow organically. It was honestly great. I miss those days
lol Mormons have the NSA servers in Utah.
Wait a second… how can they enforce this legislation when a VPN is masking the user’s location? How do they know a user using a VPN is from Utah?
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but aren’t the users they’re trying to regulate the exact subsection of users that they don’t have the ability to identify as being citizens of Utah?
Like if a user appears to be in Utah, then they’re probably not using a vpn. And if the user appears to be from out of state, then they could be using a vpn, but also Utah law doesn’t apply to those people because they’re not from Utah (as far as they know)… So essentially this law can’t actually apply to… anyone?
You are too generous. If a company registered in Utah has a user who is coming in via VPN, then that user could be from Utah and the company is not in compliance unless they enforce age verification and thus liable. Thus, everyone has to hand over their ID. No one cares if a NY resident or European or whatever gets caught in it too. That’s not a requirement to avoid.
Seems like it kills tech sector in Utah
It would if Utah wasn’t the first of many.
Albeit I haven’t checked 100% of my traffic but thank God nothing important is hosted in Utah.
I don’t know about this one, but these laws usually apply to any company doing commerce inside the jurisdiction. So any company with an office or other business presence there, not just hosting.
What the shell are que tall king a bout ? The gray 8 $alt lake is ϰ Utah.
This law is pointless
Nope. It’s a stepping stone to completely block the public from using VPNs.
I get that but laws with no enforcement mechanism are questionable at best
no, the law is a feeder to push through the courts to the US Supreme Court’s shadow docket so they can make an overbroad decision with precedent that forces the rest of the country to adopt a VPN band
What kind of music does VPN band play?
dwarfcore. the d is for dwarfcore
I think they check with the ISP or something.
