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Google is making it mandatory to have Play Services for its next-generation reCAPTCHA system on Android.
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Your phone will need to be running Play Services version 25.41.30 or greater when the system asks you to scan a QR code for verification.
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This hurdle means that de-Googled phones will fail the verification test by default.
If you’re a web dev, and you implement this, just know you won’t receive my web traffic. Ill go live with the other robots and we will start our own internet with blackjack and hookers.
how do you do, fellow human
I too, enjoy the company of blackjack and to play hookers
Web devs who implement this won’t care about your traffic.
Woooooosh
No u
Add me to your beta list . .please!
I’m getting close to just giving up on the internet.
Lemmy know when you do and how it is in a cabin in the woods in Northern Canada because, as a Canadian, thats what im doing if I drop the web
Eta: we can use meshtastic to communicate
This goes well with another thing I say : “If your website only works on Chrome, your website doesn’t work”
I’ll be hanging out in the underworld guarded by Anubis
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That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.
Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.
Unless it was the website I needed inorder to receive an organ donation, I would just close it.
I could claim that’s an act of righteous protest, but really I just know that absent my needing a new liver, there’s no website I would ever care enough about to get me to scan a QR code just to keep browsing.
I have, multiple times, had to take a screenshot, send it to another device, and then display that QR code on that device so I can scan it. Nothing about using phones isn’t a headache.
I’m too lazy to take out the phone from my pocket.
I spend most of my day without a phone near me. I hate phones, this won’t encourage me to do anything but pull further away.
I suppose that is a win. Real life isn’t happening on a screen.
Ignoring the de-Googled phones for a sec: I assume if you’re using a desktop, then the QR shows up and you have to drag out your phone to scan it in the camera app that then prompts to open the google play store. Dumb, but possible for people who have a phone with Android. What about those that don’t? Would you need a google account?
Now if it’s all on phone (using Chrome or Firefox or whatever) and pops up a QR code, you can’t scan it… but the browser would have to open the play store directly and thats a huge security no-no. The browser shouldn’t even know I have the Play Store.
I have a feeling the hundreds of us that are de-Googled ad just going to stop using these sites all together.
Yeah, so the hundreds of us won’t be able to use the internet anymore if this passes
Awesome
Google doesn’t care about screwing up the lives of thousands of people, as long as it can capture the information of millions.
At this part I’m genuinely starting to wonder which parts of the internet I really need.
We will (actually already have) make our own Internet, with blackjack, and hookers.
…and what about iPhone owners?
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652
According to this support page only older iOS versions would need additional app. So I can assume Apple and Google collaborate on that and Apple added the “feature” in newer iOS already.
And desktop users? Will Linux and any non-Google Chrome browsers be locked out now?
You’ll probably have to install a Google app I guess.
The browser shouldn’t even know I have the Play Store.
Every app on your Android phone knows every other app you have installed. GrapheneOS are trying to solve this but it’s challenging.
I’m not even de-Googled (yet) and I wouldn’t bother with this shit. It’s an instant close in that tab, and if it’s something I need then I’ll find another service.
This is awesome news for scammers:
- Fake page will say “you need to scan this qr code to verify you’re human”
- Users normally dismisses this shit, but it has become normal nowadays, take out the phone to scan it
- Qr code opens a page on totallynotascam.com that say “you need to install this totally safe APK on your device for verification 😉”
- APK passes the new useless developer “verification” as the scammer either used a hacked dev account or just paid $25 with a stolen id + stolen credit card
- User see the message “APK verified by Google play protect” and would totally believe the bullshit, giving all the possible permissions to the app
Don’t even need an app. There’s a root LPE almost monthly now most of android takes a month or more to patch. Just need a common exploitable app to handle your link and get your initial shell.
Once this is implemented, Google will have finally succeeded in closing the entire fucking internet. That is, assuming this will become anywhere successful and smaller websites will be using it as well.
A lot of Android bot devices simulate (or even ARE) a full phone with a legit Play Store and other Google services.
This requirement is enforced vendor lock in. Nothing more.
The real use case for redroid lol
Wait wait wait. To prove you’re human you have to read something designed for computers to read?
To be honest, most of what they use now is pretty easy for machines to do. Mostly because they’ve been using the captcha to train ocr and self driving.
OMG is that why I always have to identify bicycles and crosswalks? That makes sense.
And started off with letter identification to help with reading scanned books. For example, place 3 known 'R’s tell users to select all R’s. If majority of people select 4 R’s then that unknown 4th R becomes a known letter
I knew that function. And improving OCR felt like a worthwhile endeavor to crowdsource. There are a lot of old books that we need to digitize before we lose them forever.
The pivot to recognizing things for self-driving cars makes a lot of sense, but I really don’t like the idea that I’m increasing shareholder value for Tesla.
Wtf
I won’t install an app to access a fucking website.
And any service that uses it can fuck off.
Then I’ll just not use the services that use it, very stupid, as this shouldn’t be necessary
I mean, OK… Until every bank, government service, health care provider, etc implements this.
That’s gonna be really hard with the increasing amount of sites that push this.
It turns out reCAPCHA has been a privacy nightmare from the beginning: from silently monitoring user activity in the background, to sending payment information to Google; in order for an AI to assess the data, and return a risk-score to the website. But that apparently wasn’t bold enough, and now an effective 2FA is required, which provides additional telemetry to Google (but not to the website or app: which is obviously the privacy concern). So get ready to 2FA with Google upon registration, login, updating your cart, and payment; or to skip the hassle, you should just let an approved “shopping assistant” make purchases for you (“that drive a projected 25% increase in average order value”). I don’t even own a modern Android or iOS device, so how am I supposed to solve these?
I think I’ll just go to a local store and pay in cash instead. I’m starting to think the Amish have the right idea, anyone know where I can rent a horse and buggy?
Yeah, on the rare occasion where I do order something online, and happen to trip up the convoluted system, I rather give the webshop a call, than giving into this dystopian nonsense. And I’ve long done away with any mainstream platforms, which I suspect will happily adopt the system (especially those who forced me to adopt 2FA: which was seemingly just in preparation of this…). I’ll happily function as an example, to illustrate just how morally unjust it is, to effectively force someone to purchase and use a device they explicitly chose not to use; I really want to hear someone justify that.
I think there’s few people left, which do not believe we’ve gone too far with technology, so the Amish to some extend are definitely onto something.
google allows V3 version to be used REDDIT , thats why there has ben a huge amount of bans last year. alledgely to catch bots or whatever.
I’m getting real tired of the escalating corporate-mediated fascism.
Monopoly, anybody?
Naaaahhh, this is just good old fashioned American freedoms
There is a fucking huge market for non Google non iPhone come on somebody get the fuck on it
And de-enshittified analog cars. They need to hurry tf up.
I really hate the idea that any car I buy in the future is going to come stuffed with fucky software that I don’t want. Software defined car my fucking brown asshole.
I don’t want some old jalopy with a carburetor and crank windows, but there’s so little benefit to the individual for all the shit that I can’t imagine wanting it.
I do my own repairs and I hate that half the time I need to get my laptop out to reset a thing, clear a code, re-initiate some shit. Pulling the battery cable off used to work for most things, but not anymore and for a long time.
I bought the car, but they own the software? So if I want do change or repair something, I have to pay them, but if the software shits the bed, I have to pay them? Everything ends with me paying them for something I already paid for.
Fuck that.
Sailfish is awesome. It just doesn’t work on any phones that work in north America anymore.
Sailfish is closed-source, isn’t it? I want to be excited about it, but I am hesitant about another closed-source OS.
well it’s kinda semi open sadly…
Big market, but also huge barrier to entry to get a phone ecosystem off the ground. MS, Amazon, Facebook, Mozilla and many others have tried and failed. Apple and Google have huge moats
they had the benefits of being first in the market.
They weren’t really first though? Symbian, Windows Mobile and Blackberry were around but couldn’t keep up
monopoly capital tisk tisk tisk… we need to keep the children safe… don’t you care about the children?
