(the “didn’t fill” from above are all from AFTER the fix)

I did this a long time ago but I only posted it now because I wanted to make sure the issue is gone. And it is!

I finally found the culprit that’s been filling up my damn air filter, making the car run like shite and using oil like diddy.

It’s this at #4, the oil separator.

This car hasn’t had an oil change in a LONG time before I got it, gunked up the oil separator, clogged it, and the oil started going up instead of back down into the engine. Swapped, and you can see in the photo above how it was immediately fixed after. It’s actually pretty easy to remove, it just takes time to take off the airbox first, or at least that’s my mechanic told me. How he didn’t figure it out when I asked why I had oil in my airbox is beyond me, but whatever.

The whole job is almost as cheap as the oil I had to keep adding.

If you have this issue, you will see oil coming out from this tube that goes in the airbox at #36.

You didn’t ask for an auto troubleshooting tip? Well too bad!!!

Mine’s a Golf 4 1.4 petrol AXP by the way. Though, I think many cars have similar things.

If you know a community that could use this info lmk, I’m still trying to figure out lemmy.

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    19 days ago

    Not dull enough, I need more of this information! So where do I find explosion drawings and diagrams for my beautiful Opel Corsa A? He was eating a lot of oil. Doing strangely well since somebody overfilled the oil. The mechanics I’ve asked don’t want to fix, if they had time, they would replace piston rings (not enough mechanics around here).

    I want to keep the Corsa on the road, it’s such a good car. I wish it was only an oil separator - or better, if only I could keep ignoring the problem till doomsday as I have done so far. Inspection end of this month will tell how bad it all is I guess.

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      I used this https://superetka.com/elsa/?marke=V&modelljahr_numerisch=2001&vtyp=1J1&mkb=AXP&gkb=DUW&dir=rl&dokument_id=69210697&hst=587001%2F3_RU

      You have to make a user and I think they will email you your password or something like that.

      You can use it for free but you will get popups. I really should chip in a bit. It’s really nice to use even if it doesn’t show EVERYTHING.

      I hope you can maintain it. This old golf 4 lasted me years and it’s also been mistreated. I’m trying to take care of it now. Never left me stranded EVER.

      This is what the UI is like. I think it’s just pulling in a screen from a VM with the app on it or something.

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      18 days ago

      I’ve actually coke’s high-level repair manual diagrams and information out of LON chatbots

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        17 days ago

        Searching for coke’s manuals gives me all information about how to repair my coca cola vending machine, and what are LON chatbots, please?

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          Text to speech fail. Ask LLM chatbots, copilot has been able to source me diagrams for a lot of non-free repair diagras i should NOT have access to.

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            Oh no, I will not engage with LLM chatbots ever, for anything. Before I do that I’ll gladly walk, as the proud and stubborn luddite I am (which is why I’m driving a car from 1988 in the first place).

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                I just remembered checking Anna’s archive and found the Hayes manual for my beloved Corsa A. Now I can do informed maintenance and at least some repairs.

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    The times that you didn’t need to fill probably just means that the valve sometimes worked well enough to perform it’s job. Oil-related systems are like systems exposed to exhaust and combustion, they take a beating and fail much more often than systems that aren’t exposed to them.

    Congrats on solving your problem!

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      well, at the bottom there where it says I didn’t fill are actually after I replaced the oil separator. I actually haven’t added a single drop of oil since then, I think.

      My dad said immediately that the piston rings were shot. I’m sooooooo glad I proved him wrong for 2 reasons, lol

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      wow. But how?! So much oil got into their intake that it hydro locked it???

      I feel like there would be signs…the billboard kind you could put above a highway…

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        The valve would fail catastrophically and basically siphon oil into the engine. It’s a questionably complicated German design of course. It was particularly vulnerable to freezing, which happens if the engine wasn’t run long enough to boil off all condensation.

        It got close for me once. The only time it left me stranded. Stopped at a light. Pulled away. Bam, thick black smoke and the engine stalled. I’d replaced it about 45000 km before and most trips were 70km but I guess it was too much.

        I ran my mk3 golf without coolant for a summer. I abused that poor thing so much.

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          I ran my mk3 golf without coolant for a summer. I abused that poor thing so much.

          oh … oh no …

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          The valve would fail catastrophically and basically siphon oil into the engine

          Damn. Wait. Are you talking about a 1.4 Golf too? How would the oil get sucked up into the airbox?

          I mean, the oil separator on my exact car doesn’t even seem to have any sort of valve. I cut up the separator. Inside, it’s just a maze covered in oil. No valve whatsoever.

          Are you talking about a turbocharged car, maybe? This one is NA.

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    Since your car was previously abused (but even if it hasn’t I recommend this greatly) start using “Valvoline Restore and Protect” engine oil in it.

    It slowly cleans your engine and removed carbon buildup and sludge and frees up piston and oil rings. That brown staying on your oil dipstick will even go away. The shit is magic in a bottle. I started using it three years ago in my Gen 2 Prius that was burning a quart of oil every 1500 miles. Now it burns a quart every 3500 to 4000 miles. My Prius has 290,000 miles on it.

    You can check this stuff out on any forums or YouTube videos or all the analysis stuff done by Motor Oil Geek or anywhere else. Not really a negative thing to be found about it. I just buy it from Wal Mart for $30 for 5 quarts. It likely would have eventually even freed up the sludge from your oil separator without you needing to find and replace it.

    *Edit: I added some video links in a comment below.

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    Not all cars have oil separators, but a blocked PCV valve can cause the same symptoms of oil being sucked up from the crankcase into the air box/intake/throttle body, and thus rapid oil consumption. This happens especially on cars that are neglected in terms of oil change intervals and hence sludge up.

    The PVC valve is one of the items that need periodic replacing or at least cleaning (and if cleaning subsequent thorough drying before reinstalling). Also, check the associated lines aren’t clogged too, a weed wacker line is a good tool to poke through the lines to check. The PCV valve is almost never mentioned in service booklets as routine service item, it borders malice by the manufacturers and grinds my gears.

    The amount of people I talk to about a PCV valve being the cause of their oil consumption and who never heard about, or know what it is, is too damn high.

    Before you pay a mechanic thousands for open engine surgery replacing stem seals or oil control rings, check your PCV valve, gents.

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      Yea nobody I talked about even knew what that thing was, besides one dude.

      But yes I did that too. On my car there’s only one hose going from it into the airbox and I straight up replaced it. It was really cheap, like 10 euro or something.

      God I love having a cheap car. I bet on a newer one that thing costs like 5 times as much.

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      Kinked pcv hoses can cause this too, especially on older engines with more blow-by. Overpressure in the crank case will blow oil out or cause it to burn.