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      Unironically there’s training where they show trainees 2fps videos of people quick-drawing on cops, and they don’t pass until they shoot the frame the person reaches in a pocket, since theres zero frames between seeing a gun and getting shot.

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        That’s the old training videos, from the woke Obama years. Now they’re just shown videos of black men with their hands up, women driving cars, and kids with their backs turned. If it’s an irate white dude with an AR you de-escalate. Unless that dude looks like he’s gay or possibly a pale Mexican.

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    Verify if the firearm is loaded by checking for a bullet while looking down the barrel. Optionally, ask a friend for help, just point it towards them for a quick check.

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    The first one is correct in an odd roundabout way. You can tell if the weapon is loaded by its weight. If the weapon has any weight whatsoever, i.e. it exists, it is treated as if it is loaded. Is there a weapon on the ground in front of you? It’s loaded. Have you been holding it for a while? It’s loaded. Did you clear it then put it on the ground and walk away for a bit? Surprise! It’s magically loaded again.

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      The always loaded thing is to also teach you to not treat it flippantly. That you keep cognizant of where it’s pointing at all times and never at someone without intention to shoot them. Even if it’s a semi-auto with the magazine out, slide back, chamber empty you still treat that like a loaded gun.

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        During my service, the first rule was extended: “every weapon must be regarded as loaded, until you ensured it isn’t”

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          During my service the rule was pretty clear that any assembled weapon is always treated as loaded, regardless how many people have checked it. Part of the idea was that no matter how sure you are that your weapon is clear, there’s no way for me to be sure, and if you ever muzzle-swipe me you can bet your ass I’m not taking any chances on whether it’s clear. So basically, if the weapon is assembled, it’s loaded. Always.

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              Aha, then I understand! In my training, a “clear” drill was always concluded by firing in a safe direction (e.g. the ground), so I would regard that trigger pull as the conclusion of the clearing drill, not as “treating the weapon as unloaded”. The point of that step was exactly the mentality that “You just cleared the weapon, so obviously you should treat it as loaded and fire a shot into the ground to re-check that you actually cleared it”.

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      I used to be a gun salesman.

      One day I’m in the back mounting scopes and a customer’s rifle gets delivered to me with the rings and scope. First thing I do it go back out front and have the customer shoulder the rifle so I can see where his eye sits.

      I then spend time carefully mounting and leveling the scope, use the bore-sighter to get it zero-ish at 100 yards (enough to hit paper - then the customer finishes at the range), and it’s looking real good.

      Last thing I do it work the action to make sure everything still has clearance, and a chrome-plated 300 Win Mag cartidge comes out of the gun.

      That gun made it through the firearms check-in, at least 1 other sales guy, to me, back to the customer, and back to me again. We’re supposed to check the rifle every time, and that round made it into the gun. Closest I can figure is people weren’t working the action all the way, and at some point one of us did after seeing the silver color thinking it was the mag follower, and in the process loaded the chamber.

      My asshole was puckered for a solid day, but it also spoke to how effective the rules are. Even though multiple people fucked up, following the rest of the rules kept it from actually being dangerous.

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    Wanna hear something dumb? Not even a sarcastic joke: If you have a loaded revolver with a cocked hammer, and you want to unload it, you must pull the trigger.

    Reductive to say it that way, but basically the cylinder locks while the hammer is back, and most hammers won’t move once in position. Ultimately, the trigger’s job is specifically to release the hammer - just normally resulting in a violent impact with the bullet. If the hammer is being tightly held, or even blocked with one’s full hand, the weapon won’t go off.

    I don’t own a gun, but I remember it because it’s the stupidest gun fact I’ve learned.

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      You should probably look down the barrel as you do, so you can watch whether a bullet comes out, right? Otherwise you might miss it.

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        Simply press your thumb on the muzzle, this will stop the bullet from coming all the way out. This way you won’t lose it and can reuse it later.

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      Be careful with that method, it can yield false results if the weapon is loaded, but not cocked. Better make sure to cock it first before pulling the trigger. Same applies when the safety is on.

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    In a self-aware sense it’s kinda funny how much this rubs me the wrong way after the correct way was hammered into me as a kid.

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    Yeah, I recommend pointing a gun at police, that solves the problem real quick

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      You’d be surprised how many left and liberal leaning people have come around to firearms recently… For no easily identifiable reason at all. SRA and LGC have seen a shitload of new members.

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        You’d be surprised how many left and liberal leaning people have come around to firearms recent

        Liberals can have guns. They just can’t be seen in public with them without an uproar.

        Meanwhile this guy gets paid speaking engagements and is treated like a hero: