• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Again, what do you want them to do? Should Russia be allowed to just have it?

    That’s absolutely his stance. He feels like Russia should own and occupy Ukraine.

    And he says we’re filled with propaganda.

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        1 day ago

        Then what do you think should happen?! What is the best possible outcome, in your opinion?

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            1 day ago

            I don’t think the exit of WWI happens the same way without a revolution. Just like today, the war was pushed by a few elites; one in particular. They thought they could bring the people together by making them fight a war, but mounting losses, and increasingly bad situations for the common people (not the ruler) led to the people standing up and removing them. This then allowed them to exit the war (notably, in relation to this event, giving up Ukraine too).

            If you want an exit like WWI, you have to stop telling people not to support Ukraine. You need to tell Putin to fuck off and stop him. Things only get worse for the common people as long as he continues to want to make a legacy.

            The people need to decide that they’ve suffered enough, while he shelters in his palaces and lives the life of royalty. Ukraine is on your side on this. You just need to figure out that the Putin regime is not doing what’s best for the people. He’s an emperor who wants to make a legacy, just as the emperors before did. He needs to be removed, as the emperors before were.