• justaman123@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    109
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    This poster is just about sharing divisive bullshit. None of it’s real all of its propaganda designed to get people riled up and mad at each other along class lines. Check their post history it’s all bullshit. It’s like top down meme though control

    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      44
      ·
      2 days ago

      Thank you for the warning.

      So let me share my experience to balance it out: in my village there is a tiny building by the road that used to be a gas station in the 50s/60s.

      Today the main road has been diverted so only local traffic is passing by and the station has been closed for decades.

      10 years ago a group of people decided to transform the building, they got money from the town for paint and changing the window and now it’s like a little free library but for books, toys and clothes. The whole village is using it.

      A lot of it is kid clothing, it’s always open without anyone to supervise it and people are respectful, it stays clean and people don’t storm the place to resell what they can.

      • justaman123@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        This sounds delightful and like a place that isn’t still paying the cost of slavery. Occasionally in areas that are rural enough there will be farm stands where folks pay for items on an honor system. But it’s gotta be pretty far away from the cities. Your town sounds like a place where people respect a basic dignity of folks and we need more of it

    • ddplf@szmer.info
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      3 days ago

      Good, class war is exactly what we should be absolutely be riled up on right now.

      • Rothe@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        24
        ·
        2 days ago

        The meme does the opposite though. It riles you up against your neighbour and not the oligarchs who created the shitty situation in the first place.

  • Turret3857@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    56
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    I’d like to bring attention to the child in this scenario.

    How pissed would you be if your neighbor just gave your mom the most kick ass set of Jordan’s youve ever seen, the entire class will be jealous of them

    and your mom sells it to buy wheat thins.

    You as a child would not understand the need for groceries. all you know is that your mom gave away your one chance at fitting in for wheat thins.

    • jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      Who would buy “the most kick ass set of Jordans you’ve ever seen” for a boy who is still growing so fast they outgrow the shoes while they’re barely worn?

      • Turret3857@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        a parent with the means who wants their child to enjoy their childhood ? wtf kind of question is that?

        • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          3 days ago

          She’s trying to resale a spur of the moment gift. She doesn’t sound like someone who’s got things together. Wouldn’t the socially acceptable thing to do would be to decline the gift or accept the shoes and regift them / donate them? Idk the response, “let me get cash for those.” isn’t a great look. That’s why the lady snatched them back.

          • arrow74@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            2 days ago

            You ever read that Christmas story about the poor couple that sells things that are important to them to get something nice for the other?

            Now imagine selling a random gift to get money to use on commodities like food, rent, or utilities.

            We can’t know what that person needed the money for. While overall I agree with the reaction of the poster, I can get off my high horse long enough to acknowledge we don’t know the whole situation or the economic position of the family.

            Maybe she would buy smokes, maybe she’d pay rent. We don’t know.

            As an anecdote from my childhood, we were poor. My parents often spent what little they had to get nice things for me and my sister. It came at a detriment to our home. We had much of what we wanted, but we lacked what we needed. As an adult now I would invest in the environment first.

            • shneancy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              an important part of the story above is her saying that she intends to sell those immediately

              if i got a very expensive gift when i needed money i’d first yk, think about it a bit. most likely i’d feel guilty selling said gift, and i 100% would not brag about it to the person who gave it to me

            • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              I’m not arguing the status of the recevier. I’m questioning someone who’s response to a gift is immediately the monetary outcome. Your example was them selling things that were important to them. This person had not even full received the gift and to the face of the person giving the gift, sad something so socially unacceptable the gift was taken back. Do you think the gift would have been taken back if the giver thought the gift would provide a much needed meal? The tone of the tweet would leave anyone to thing the giver didn’t hold a high opion of the other woman if she was willing to take them back.

        • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          14
          ·
          3 days ago

          He’s not being an ass you are. He’s being realistic to the situation. Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean you need to call people an ass.

          • ddplf@szmer.info
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            POOR PEOPLE WOULDN’T BE POOR IF THEY WEREN’T STUPID, LAZY AND ALCOHOLIC, AMIRITE??? STUPID DUMB POOR PEOPLE

            • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              2 days ago

              My parents were firmly middle class, divorced though.

              My mom would absolutely do something like this to be able to buy herself something nice instead.

        • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          3 days ago

          Eh, I’ve lived in plenty of poor neighborhoods. The lotto tickets basically coat the gas station parking lot like a paper mache.

          • ddplf@szmer.info
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            Of course they do, they are designed to be that way - they are super cheap and sell you a chance for a better life. They are made to exploit people that are permanently stuck in poverty hell and hope is the only thing left.

            Once again, blaming the victims and not the oppressor.

            • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              When did I blame the victim? Why even frame it that way?

              I grew up poor and around poor people in poor neighborhoods. It’s what the poor do. You wanna argue about improving their lot, sure, but half the mothers in my neighborhood would sell anything they could for a hit of hope or faux luxury. My own mother stole from me.

  • jballs@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    3 days ago

    I always struggle with this during garage sales. Most of the time, I don’t even want money for my stuff. I just want it to go to someone who needs it.

    But if you put a FREE sign on anything, people will just scoop it up, throw it in a truck already loaded with other free stuff, and take it to the flea market to sell.

    It shouldn’t bother me, since the people selling stuff at the flea market usually are pretty poor themselves and probably need to make money. But it just irks me that instead of a mom getting free clothes for her kids, that mom would instead have to buy them at a markup instead.

    • shneancy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      2 days ago

      there is a solution for that - vibe checks! if that person in front of you seems kind and like they actually need what you’re selling - give it to them for free. but if they’re just looking for deals to resell, keep the prices

      • moopet@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        This is the kind of means-testing governments do for benefits, right? Or is it more like social profiling? You can sell what you want, but when you start to put rules in place it gets icky quite fast.

        • shneancy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          2 days ago

          i’m not recommending this method to governments though, am i?

          i recommend it for people who do garage sales once every few years who feel bad charging people for what they don’t need

  • Folstar@lemmus.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    3 days ago

    Then everyone clapped. Those lousy poors, not understanding the value of expensive footwear. So undignified.

    • shneancy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      nah this easily could’ve happened. i once had a neighbour of mine 1. ask me if that old basket in the corner of the hallway serving as a bin for spam mail was mine because she wanted to take it 2. ask me to sell her my flat?? in the same 3min conversation? so clearly she could very easily afford her own old basket but no, taking the communal one would be cheaper

      a lot of rich people get rich by being scumbags

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    I never got the idea that the mom who was to receive the shoes is poor. She lives next door not in another neighbourhood. The only thing was that her son was younger and would maybe like to receive a cool hand me down.

    • Leviathan@fedinsfw.app
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      Outside of suburban hell people of vastly different economic situations generally live right near each other.

      For instance, next door from me are two dudes who couldn’t afford a fridge for the first couple months they lived here, they work and study, the next neighbor owns the entire building and his own contracting company.

      There person in the story could truly be suffering, but it’s sold as “lol Karen got owned”.

  • bss03@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    Conditional “kindness” isn’t kindness, it’s infantilization.

    Real “kindness” is giving people what you can, and trusting them to use it the best they can. No means or ways testing.

    This is one reason direct cash transfers are so effective, because cash is no versatile.