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    11 months ago

    NGL if you have a flip phone now, you’re either a contract killer, a drug dealer and or a stage 5 weirdo.

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      This is just judgemental and stupid. If you are easily distracted not using a smartphone outside business hours is hugely beneficial.

      I use a lumia 550, but REALLY I would prefer an old school phone like the w800i, but a good k750/w800/k800 is rare and expensive at this point and pretty likely to fail. (I have 2g here). So the lumia it is.

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          I mean this depends on your viewpoint. Yes it is my off-hours daily. (I have to have a smartphone when working)

          It can:

          • Call and text Edit: this IS a 4g device, and has support for VoLTE, so it has modern call quality. Most feature phones you can buy suck as phones.
          • Play a bunch of games
          • Has a pretty good MP3 player (also can connect to modern bluetooth devices (!!!))
          • Has a camera of completely reasonable quality
          • It can display pictures, play videos, view all sorts of documents. (Ebooks .docs, xlsx-es, ppt-s)
          • Even the maps work (although who knows for how long)
          • Has microSD XC support

          So it basically does what my w800i does, but in a way newer phone. In my view it does everything a modern device does, except for all the doomscrolly bits.

          So yeah, if you need a weekend phone, picking up a lumia makes a whole lot of sense in my view.

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      Friend of mine bought her first smart phone about a year ago. She just didn’t need any of the functions on a smartphone and was happier with her flip phone: pretty much infinite battery, near indestructible, does communicate just ok.

      Only reason she bought a smart phone is to download some group chat clients. Since she broke up with her BF, we additionally had to write her on SMS. So she made it a bit easier for us.

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          No, they use them because the battery lasts for ages and they’re very reliable. They still have modern smartphones for personal use. And nothing wrong with that, the main use for a phone should be communicating with others, if Anon can get away with only SMS and regular calls, good for him.

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      11 months ago

      Or maybe just broke, but then it’s a little odd to by pursuing more than a 2 year degree without a stable living situation.

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      I only bought a smartphone because I was getting into the HVAC field and I wanted to have access to the Internet to help with diagnostics, if it wasn’t for that job I might still just have an old flip phone lol

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    Being on 4chan a wayyy bigger red flag than using a flip phone most of the time.

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          You might be right, but I’d still rather kill myself than play these weird games for a relationship. So far I’ve been doing ok without WhatsApp in the EU. If they can only talk to me via WA I’m just not talking to them. But then again, my circles are pretty “techy” so most people are OK with it.

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          “Practicing gratitude” is unhinged 100% of the time, without exception.

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        I AM A NORMAL PERSON AND CAN BE TRUSTED WITH GUNS! I AM A NORMAL PERSON AND CAN BE TRUSTED WITH GUNS! I AM A NORMAL PERSON AND CAN BE TRUSTED WITH GUNS!

        lol

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      11 months ago

      This, for real. I’m autistic but I’ve learned to mask it by showing normies what they expect to see and it makes things so much easier. Remember, reception matters more than intention.

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      You don’t need to also fake post what others post. Just have an account, you don’t need to ever post on it and if you do post you can keep it visible to friends only. I haven’t posted anything on Facebook for years, but that account is the only way some friends and relatives can reach me (I moved abroad, so phone is not an option).

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    you have xmpp? -no…

    Matrix, Briar, SimpleX? -no

    gotta have Email at least? … … no 🧐

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      11 months ago

      I only know two women who use non-standard social apps, and both of them work in NGOs with good reason to not trust corps/government.

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    I know this is likely fake, but I have gotten that reaction from people. Folks really find it strange when you don’t have social media. The times it really sucks is when they think you’re lying and just don’t want to add them.

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      It’s about safety for me. Going on a date with someone is such a gamble. If they have zero social media presence, that’s outside of what’s normal. Anything outside of normal social expectations is a safety red flag to me, because you immediately become less predictable to me. I don’t want to be alone with someone I don’t really know who is unpredictable. I’m just trying not to get murdered.

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          I actually don’t mind being a weirdo who doesn’t get dates, but I don’t understand why people keep falling for this hyper specific personality archetype that’s got making girls swoon over them down to a science.

          100% I have interests that probably don’t align with yours, but at least I’m not lying to you until you’re on the hook then calling you a bitch about it 🤷

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            No one has ever lied to me to get me on the hook and then called me anything about it. I don’t know who the people are who fall for this, but it’s not an issue in my circles.

            Most of my exes have been weirdos, and I am a bit of a weirdo. It’s still a red flag to have absolutely no social media presence, and it means I can’t send links to your pages with screen shots of you to my sister before our date in case I get murdered.

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        As someone whose only “social media” is Lemmy, I’d be 100% fine meeting in public places or with people you trust. But I’m not going to sell my personal information for a date.

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        I suppose. Handing over your entire life and information to a corporation and making most of it available to the world should be the larger red flag.

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    If you don’t like social media, why would you pretend to like social media to attract someone else who REALLY REALLY cares about social media? It’s bound to fail.

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      It’s not that these people actively care about social media or anything, it’s just a regular part of life. I’m like OP here in the sense that I don’t have any active social media attached to my name but I have some token pseudonymous social media accounts for exactly this reason. Being this obstinate about it is legitimately a huge red flag, and imo indicates that you’ve given up even more control of your life to social media, rather than understanding how to use it as a tool for a set of narrowly defined tasks.

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    I am terminally online and even I don’t want to engage with someone I know IRL through social media. We don’t need to be on discord or Instagram or Reddit to talk 1 on 1. We can just fucking text. Like on the phone. No, I don’t want to download Kik or whatsapp or any other random, sketchy app. We can text through the phone.

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      Fuck texting like a Neanderthal. Use a modern, and secure app to communicate. WhatsApp as a bottom of the barrel thing (99% of society outside of the US is on it, so it’s the de facto standard) , signal or better if you can.

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        I really don’t care about security of a conversation that goes like:

        “hey wanna hang out on Sunday?”

        “Sure, sounds fun, let’s meet at xxx at yyy pm.”

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        Signal is as good as you can get or better yet we revert back to the good old days> 1890s and start using telegrams or even better we revert back a further 2000 years and use fire flint and rock me and the homies dance round the fire

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          Yeah, I was just being conservative. Lemmy has a hard-on for open source and privacy. Didn’t want to state “signal is best”, because someone would “akshually” me :)

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        Nothing makes me smirk like the rest of the world bragging to Americans that they use Facebook to text. Yeah guys, you nailed it. Big win. We’re over here using standard protocols like rubes. I’m sure you get all kinds of security from that free app from Mr Zuckerberg. lol

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          You guys use iMessage, a proprietary app from an other big tech company and use it to dismiss the other half of the population.

          You guys aren’t much better.

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          I’m all for discrediting Facebook services for better alternatives, but Whatsapp employs End to End encryption by default, while SMS is readable from your ISP and anyone intercepting your conversation.

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            Facebook makes money selling data for advertising. They don’t host and maintain what’s app for the good of mankind. every single thing you send on the app is being harvested for data and you know it. It is decrypted at each end and hovered up for sale to the highest bidder.

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              Facebook makes money mainly from advertising, yes, which can be done also on Whatsapp and will be in the future.

              While they can still harvest some data from Whatsapp even if conversations are encrypted, my point was that they have no way to read the content of messages you send.

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          I’d guess the point is rather that women tend to research their potential assailants/murderers/lovers before dates, which is easier to do for people that share their shit on social media.

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    Ive missed out on job opportunities because i dont keep any socials. There have been a couple companies ive applied to that i got a callback from after the interviews where they basically said my lack of online presence was a red flag for them. Like wtf does it matter if i use facebook or linkden or whatever? I get that it helps them get a feel for the candidate before hiring them, but still…

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      The obsession with social media is fucked up, in my opinion. All the AV- and IT-gear in my school were my responsibility for almost 20 years, I got nothing but praise from everyone. Keeping everything running smoothly was easy and I enjoyed it.

      Then one day our principal added “social media presence” to the list of my duties. I asked what that meant. “Well, posting weekly on Instagram and Facebook so that the community can see what good work we do here!”

      I resigned from the AV- and IT-duties at that moment. I have zero interest in touching those platforms and I consider posting pictures of students or their work online as a very bad idea.

      The principal was visibly shocked by my reaction but could not deny the resignation of my duties, since everyone else had gotten to change their duty roles yearly. Now I take care of the woodshop class and materials, which is nice.

      Two younger teachers took shared charge of the IT-duties. They have no idea how to handle any problems, nothing works anymore and people are pissed off, but now we have pictures on the Internet.

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      Funny thing is, some places love when people Dont have social media. I have had to go thrugh a lot of background checks for my jobs before and most of the time they are happy to hear that there is no social media for me to say dumb stuff on online.

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          It doesn’t really count in the same way Reddit didn’t count because it’s not linked to a name so you can say all the dumb stuff you like no one’s ever going to know it was you that said it.

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            I agree, you can say plenty of dumb stuff online on this particular social media site. That’s what makes it fun!

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      In fairness, I’ve got a foldable flippy type phone and the number of conversations it starts is unreal. If I wasn’t happily attached (and had more banter than the average housebrick) I’m sure it’d lead to some good chats and encounters.

      As it stands though, it’s just a nice talking point.

      e: plus it’s satisfying as fuck ending a call by closing the phone.

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      Years ago I had one that was spring-loaded so you’d press a little button on the side and it would pop open in one move. I really liked that phone. Don’t remember what brand it was.