Positives … Good AI features
Negatives … No 4K recording on all lenses
Some people just have different priorities.
If I’m paying $900 for a phone, you’d better believe that 4K30 is the barest of bare minimums I’m expecting that rear camera to do unless it’s a deliberate tradeoff for something more ethical like a Fairphone. The Pixel 9 base model can shoot at 4K60 and 1080p240 (256 GB and the same $900 price). “Good AI features” lmfao blow it out your ass, Asus. I wonder where this comparison chart is coming from anyway.
- shove it up your asus
My 2022 iPhone SE, that I bought new for about $550, records 4K at 60fps.
I’m a little shocked that isn’t the base standard for all smartphones now.
Negatives - only 128gb storage
WTF who writes this shite?
My phone has 256gb storage and it’s constantly full. Next phone I’m getting needs to have 1tb+ storage
what do you use that storage for? could you send a screenshot about the storage usage statistics?
I have so many apps that I rarely use and I still only have used 45 GB. I use an sd card for the media, though, and a lot of app backups that you probably can’t do anyway, but that’s not much of a difference
Mostly media
“Others” is just more media it’s not counting for some reason
hmm I see. what kind of media is that, movies and music or pictures and recorded videos? if it’s the latter, you don’t have a computer at home right?
It’s all of the above. I do have computer and self host plex but I need to keep some of the stuff locally because I travel a lot
45G is often the size of the OS nowadays. :/ Mine is 30G by itself. The rest of my 128G is taken up by apps/photos/videos I could admittedly clean up. I also have a 512GB SD card I use to carry my entire music library (well, a compressed version).
on my device, calyx os takes 22 GB, and I think this is a lot. I can’t understand what takes 45 GB in a system. Technically probably it’s only half of it used at a time because of A/B partitions, but half of that is still a lot
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I suppose it’s bad if you play a lot of mobile games or you’re a grandparent, but it’s more than enough for everyone else.
“Or if you’re a grandparent”? What makes you say this?
Lots of pics and vids of the grandkids, maybe?
I hate that they lumped the “AI” features into one.
Like… I love AI up scaling, but AI assistants can f*** off.
Yeah. AI and quality of video recording is just not high on the list for me.
how is “ultra-portable” a positive, when all these phone are the same size, and not even small phones at all?
Yeah, these pro/con lists are just random bullshit with 0 accountability and consistency.
The only useful comparisons are ones that show the actual specs side by side, and even then it doesn’t tell the whole story.
I looked it up and the ROG phone 8 pro isn’t even smaller or lighter than the other two - if anything it’s slightly bigger and heavier. Truly useless as a positive point.
Same way "Confusing Charging Situation " is a thing when they all charge the same way, plus minus wireless but the pixel can do both, unless that is what is confusing.
Just finished setting up my Xperia Z2 Compact with Lineage OS. It is such a relief to have a truly compact phone again
why would you choose any of the asuses?
“nicely built”, and “sleek design” are not positives, but made up qualities. That’s basically a goal for all phone manufacturers
“good AI features”. sorry what? do they mean the power button opens the assist lant instead of the shutdown menu? or that the device sends home an order of magnitude more information about you than usual?
“ultra portable”? what the fuck does that mean for a fucking smartphone?
and “univeral fast charging” means it’s glued in battery will wear out ultra fast.
buy a pixel if you don’t care about keeping it for a long time, and about having a removable battery. otherwise get a fairphone
fairphone
their site doesn’t seem to have US as an option…?? what am I missing?
The newest fairphone doesn’t have a US distributor yet. The last gen one does
thank you!
Unfortunately I think it’s the same situation for their earbuds, which is what I’m wanting.
Sites so stupid you know some weren’t even build by AI, just there to sell ads into your brainhole - and those ads will rot your brain less than the actual site “content”.
The pixel, so you can put graphene on it
Is graphene less glitchy than stock on a pixel 8? Or at least no worse? I’m tired of unfixed glitches since the pixel 6. YouTube PIP and split screen specifically
It doesn’t aim to make enhancements beyond privacy/security specific ones. In that sense it’s more likely to give you issues with certain apps because of things like sandboxed Play services and apps not having access to the device identifier.
That said, I use it and if you’re OK with giving up certain things like Google Pay, then I recommend it.
To add to that, most of the time there are easy work arounds like just using the apps browser version instead of an app. The only thing I’ve had a couple times was my keyboards just wouldn’t pop up. No matter what I did the keyboards were dead for about 3 minutes each time it happened, they started to work again but it’s just a quirk of a privacy focused OS
Of these 3, the Pixel 9. It can run both GrapheneOS and CalyxOS.
The Pixel 8a can also run both, but it only costs $400. CalyxOS will support both phones until 2031.
I’m about to switch from iPhone to a Pixel 9 so I can put CalyxOS on it. Used iPhones since a 3GS in 2009, but the time has come.
There’s not a lot of reason to even jump from the 8 Pro to the 9 Series unless you slurp up the marketing hype, especially if you don’t care about intensive tasks like games.
For me personally, the new phone feeling comes from wiping my device every now and then and selecting exactly the right slate of apps to make my life easier/better/more organized.
When it comes to hardware it feels like there is less differentiation than ever before. Oneplus could make a case for their slider button, phones with a headphone jack or removable battery can claim bonus points for that, and I hear Sony has some nice form factors (tall & thin). When it comes down to it, the most important question for me is can I unlock it and get rid of any pre-installed junk.
Those comparison charts like the one you posted are unresearched/uncritical garbage made to sell affiliate links. They’ll never actually give a harsh review to anything listed because they want you to buy something
Your best bet is to ask owners’ groups for each phone you’re considering for reviews and buying advice and weighing that yourself.
Is there a particular reason you need a brand new model? I tend to look at flagships that are a year or two old.
You might want to specify what your requirements are in a phone - this might help us :)
Also, have you tried the following communities?
pixel, so you can run GrapheneOS
Depends on your priorities but I’d also say Pixel even if keeping stock, best update policy
7 years of updates is nice
God can these people keep AI out of phones?
Even those stupid “AI” camera features can fuck off, they always make the photo worse, unless all the do is pick a filter and adjust the saturation/brightness/contrast/etc. as soon as the do something unreversable like add blurring, they can fuck off because it always looks janky AF in real world use
I’m very happy with my OnePlus 12. I’d recommend looking into them as an option.
I’d love more info on the “confusing charging situation”.
Nope, if you got more info on it it wouldn’t be confusing anymore.
No OnePlus?
I have had OP8 for few years now and its still working perfectly fine. Battery could be better but other than that its still fast and reliable.
ColorOS is hot garbage unfortunately, full of Chinese bloat.
Up until the OP11 they would ship a different release for Western markets (OxygenOS), but from the 12 that’s apparently a thing of the past.
I’m still rocking the 10pro and love it, but absolutely dread the moment when it inevitably fails someday.
They haven’t stopped using OxygenOS, the 13 ships with OxygenOS 15.0
I wish, unfortunately it’s just a name change. Under the hood it’s all ColorOS, there’s no more separate development.
The OS has merged with Color OS. It’s still called OxygenOS, but they have basically unified the two. It’s also what got me out of 1+, my last phone with them was an 8 Pro.
Ah, good to know.
I’m still rocking a OP6 running the latest Lineage. Cost me $60 used. $1000 for a phone is insane!
I’ve never paid more than $150 for a phone.
Having 2 or 3 phones for the same price means I can run a hot spare and have a test device for less than one of these new phones.
I would be as well just that I sadly bought a new phone before realising I can do that. Also my bank apps don’t work on lineage sadly. The OP6 i however sitting in my drawer with lineage installed.
Use the bank website with Hermit or Native Alpha.
Won’t help because the only reason I have the bank app is for paying bills (just scan the code) and sending people money using FLIK. None of those 2 options are supported on the website.
Stop using whatever website that is my man, lmao.
How about the OnePlus 13? Best bang for your buck right now, great camera, great battery and ip69 rating.
Bang: best
Camera: great
Battery: great
Rating: nice
Wow I was still thinking my 8 was somewhat recent but now I learn they’re on 13?!?
Personally, when I can afford it I’m going to go for the OnePlus Nord N10 5G. I don’t feel the need for the more stringent security hardening on GrapheneOS, so basic LineageOS MicroG is enough for me.
I hate the lack of a headphone jack enough to make that tradeoff, vs a Google Pixel.
Is there a phone with a proper headset jack and isn’t tainted by whispers of Chinese evil gov spying ? My country still feels the sting of the Nortel issue.
I can recommend the Samsung Galaxy A25. Has samsung chips (A15 has mediatek) and an audio jack (A35 does not). From what I’ve seen the new models (A16 at least) have all ditched the audio jack.
Decent phone with an okay screen, a headphone jack, and expandable storage.
Sony Xperia?
Maybe motorola? I don’t know about chinese spying, and my g31 has a headphone jack, micro sd card slot and a pretty large battery (and is pretty affordable).
Good question, I honestly don’t know. :-(