Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.

How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…

  • HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth
    2352·
    10 days ago

    100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan

    1. Let trump do what he want
    2. Kill trump
    3. Put a puppet like vance in is place
    4. Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    60·
    10 days ago

    I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.

    Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.

    This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.

    But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.

    And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.

    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldEnglish
      251·
      10 days ago

      i had a friend in the drama department in college. he was an idiot. he was one of those guys who got older every year but his girlfriends didn’t. a few years after we all graduated, we all went our ways. word made it through the grapevine one day because we all got google alerts. he’d been arrested by the feds, and not for statutory like we’d all first assumed. nah, he couldn’t get a job after college so he tried to convince an undercover ATF officer to engage in some light terrorism/treason as a way of blowing off steam. funniest thing is, my mom and that ATF officer’s wife go on vacation together like twice a year (they lived in my hometown for fifteen years, we’re friends).

      uh, fuck. i’m sure there was a point to this story. if i remember i’ll get back to it.

        • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          10 days ago

          i’m trying to remember if there was something about my idiot felon friend who i think is stupid enough to get tricked into being a patsy or something about my myopic but wellmeaning fed friend that was relevant. twas one or tother. i’m very tired an [8]. it may take me some time to figure it out.

    • muusemuuse@lemm.eeEnglish
      12·
      10 days ago

      No, the secret service did not screw that up. They told the Trump campaign they could not secure the area and the campaign ignored them. Trump is far dumber than Hitler. Hitler had people protecting him and he respected their work. Trump dismisses anything that mildly annoys or inconveniences him. He absolutely will be shot, we just have no idea when or what country will get credit for the kill.

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
        61·
        10 days ago

        What country would want him shot? He’s destroying the US more effectively than any enemy could ever hope to do.

        • alberttcone@sh.itjust.works
          8·
          10 days ago

          Countries outside the US don’t see it as an enemy, but as a wealthy partner. Having that partner suddenly go insane and lashing out at its friends due to a malignant brain tumour is sad to see. They might well support surgery to remove the tumour in the hope that their former partner can one day recover.

        • muusemuuse@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          10 days ago

          You are assuming it’s an enemy I was referring to. Trump is really hurting our allies and they are in a dangerous place right now because of him. He’s not stopping. He’s making other countries vulnerable. the fastest fix for them is if he dies.

        • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          10 days ago

          The EU, UK, Canada, Mexico + Cartels, Taiwan, Japan…and Ukraine. There are a lot of people endangered by the Trump Regime, and would like this ride to stop.

      • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
        31·
        10 days ago

        Hitler, unlike Trump, fought in an actual war. If nothing else, that goes a long way towards respecting the power of violence - both to give and receive it.

    • DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz
      9·
      10 days ago

      A suicide mission might not be as much of an issue if someone’s entire life is in shambless due to economic collapse, no healthcare and God knows what else is cooking up over there in the US. I mean, you’re prolly very tight that the feds are on top of it, but human life can be pretty squishy, especially for a ca. 80 y.o. man. Someone could leave a carrot on the white house doorstep and he might trip and snap his neck, who knows.

      But I’m more curious about the people who lose everything, are getting truly desperate, and have nothing left to fear.

      • DrFistington@lemmy.world
        21·
        10 days ago

        Yeah, people forget that there are entire generations of Americans whose only feasible retirement plans are suicide or homicide

        • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafeEnglish
          11·
          10 days ago

          Or just, you know, death. 😂 No need to throw a “-cide” of any kind, enough of the time. I had a 50 y/o coworker die from cancer. Sad. Too soon. But he was worried about retirement…now he doesn’t have to. ¯\(°_o)/¯

    • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
      11·
      10 days ago

      Considering how the Trump Regime consistently fires anyone who is competent but DEI or not glazing Trump’s asshole, I think an assassin would have an easier time than usual.

  • shaggyb@lemmy.world
    54·
    10 days ago

    If we’re being real, it’s not likely at all. He’s probably safer than Biden was.

    Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn’t go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.

    In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.

    • T156@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      10 days ago

      He’s also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.

  • Jhex@lemmy.world
    49·
    9 days ago

    very small… I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?

    • Madison420@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 days ago

      The area a sniper shoots to hit is about the size of a peach pit and isn’t actually a part that’s involved in cognition but rather it does all the autonomic shit you need to survive.

    • BigJim@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 days ago

      Well how many bullets to the ass do you think it would take to put a man down? Especially considering the generous proportions of Trump’s rump.

      Its a target you can’t miss.

    • unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works
      61·
      10 days ago

      I’ll take assassination… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over. As far as prison goes … heh … never going to happen. Our justice system doesn’t send wealthy individuals to jail… especially ex presidents.

    • Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world
      31·
      10 days ago

      if we’re lucky, he’ll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    421·
    10 days ago

    Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    29·
    9 days ago

    It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.

    We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).

    However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.

    So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.

    • leadore@lemmy.world
      14·
      10 days ago

      We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. … Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).

      That person had been searching for info on the schedules of both Biden and trump. That along with some of the other info we learned about him makes me think it wasn’t so much a partisan political motivation as the desire to become famous and/or take someone famous down on his way off the planet.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 days ago

        I mean, it takes all kinds right? A desire to go out big can manifest in so many ways and he didn’t go after an A list actor, or a CEO, or any number of other high profile people. There is a reason he decided on Trump, even if his original impetus was suicide.

      • DreadPirateSnuggles@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        9 days ago

        But if the school shooting crowd decides that going after presidents gets them more attention, then only one of them has to get lucky.

    • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world
      5·
      9 days ago

      That first attempt the shooter was seen beforehand and they did a quick check…he did end uo getting into position again AND took the shot.

      Needless to say when security is that incompetent, it is highly likely he’ll see his demise in such a manner.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 days ago

        That’s part of my point though, he’s going to have the very best and about ten times the people on the job as compared to his security detail back then.

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
    282·
    10 days ago

    I would love to see it but the real change can only come from dems sweeping midterms.

    There is a whole order of succession which empowers the christofascit VP and then christofascist house speaker, christofascist senate leader, christofascist secretary of state, etc.

    There is a chance the cult of personality crumbles, but also a chance he becomes a martyr.

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    261·
    10 days ago

    I think he’s more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because his opportunist coattail riders will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party. I just wish he’d hurry it up. Chow down, Donny boy.

      • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 days ago

        Wouldn’t really surprise me if Orangeboy happened to possess superlongevity genes. He’s always had pretty incredible luck for stumbling out of the way of just about every consequence of his own actions.