Element is a good alternative, OpenSource and federated
I quit discord a year ago for Matrix or XMPP. never looked back.
soooo, honest opinions of discord users here: hows matrix nowadays? what are the other options?
It really depends on how you use Discord. Matrix was never trying to be a Discord alternative so for some usecases it’s fine, but for a place to hang out with your friends and play video games it’s not.
Element x is pretty solid but not perfect, matrix-rust-sdk needs to have desktop clients, servers need to support all the new stuff, I give element 5 years before it’s a top tier messenger
Please give me a federated, self-hosted Discord alternative! I’m tired of these bullshit platforms.
Not federated, but Revolt can be self-hosted and is very similar to Discord in the look and feel from what I have seen (I have it installed, but haven’t tried getting friends to install it and am not hosting). So it could be worth looking into for folks that are used to Discord.
It’s not federated, the developer is specifically against federation. He didn’t even support self-hosting properly and officially, until the community made pullrequests in this regard themselves. Revolt is mainly made to be hosted by the developer himself. Probably just another Discord. Open-sourcing the code doesn’t do anything.
Good to know information, I haven’t looked into it beyond installing it to see how similar it was. Still could be a starting point for some folks that have the option to self-host and more specifically have large friend groups that have issues with only liking the UI of Discord. A very specific scenario for sure, but still nice to have options if one like that were to happen.
No.
Future headline: “Discord users begin testing Discord alternatives”
Already started. Revolt seems like it could be a near 1 to 1 replacement soon.
Too bad team speak hasn’t released their updated server files.
I’ve never quit using teamspeak but I’d never see it as an alternative for the chatting functions of discord (neither private or server wide). Calling and screensharing on it is superior for sure, chatting is garbage.
Maybe we can all go back to AIM
It’s proprietary and centralized. No practical difference. IRC and XMPP are the way.
Controversially, I cheer on the quickening of the inshitification of Discord. The sooner more folks are convinced to move away from that place, the better. I hope for a return to indexable and searchable old school forums (or their modern equivalents—Discourse is so nice).
Problem is folks won’t move, they’re too entrenched. Look at twitter, it’s still going ok despite having been a cesspit for years now. Or reddit, where some moved, but they moved to yet another enshittified platform: Discord. The amount of crap people ( especially the ones on discord ) will put up with is immense before they even consider switching.
Sad but true. A guy can dream.
Discord was shit from the beginning. Enshitification is useless here.
Sadly parts of my social group are currently migrating to discord.
You’re probably right, sadly.
I am not all computer, but isn’t it possible to make something like discord that is searchable like forums?
Anything is possible. But I’m also a grump who doesn’t like the fast pace of chat anyway, so I’m personally more interested in the forums approach.
Reminder that we have a european alternative called Revolt we can always switch to!
Another alternative is Element for chatting and Teamspeak for Calls/Screenshare!
Element/Matrix does calls and screen share also by the way!
(Teamspeak can do screen share? That’s news to me!)
I just checked and indeed it does! Didn’t know that before, although I do think Revolt is more user friendly to non-tech people so will probably be a better choice for people to migrate to.
Teamspeak 6 released a month or so ago and has Peer2Peer screenshare, it works great!
I read that Revolt doesn’t have screen-sharing, which is a deal-breaker for my group. I wonder how well Matrix’s is…
Element does it natively? As in, it’s a feature of Element and not some integration with a different tool? I didn’t even expect calls to be a part of the matrix protocol yet.
in the past they were using a jitsy integration, they are in the process of migrating to their in-house element call
I haven’t tried it yet but opening Element in browser it does have a call option
Element really needs to get push to talk. It’s an incredibly basic feature to be missing, and for me personally and I’m sure others the lack of it is a deal breaker.
insane
Cool. I’m out then.
I’ve always hated Discord since the very beginning. At least now I have yet another really good reason.
Never used it, never will. Ventrilo for lyfe.
For me it’s Mumble. Open sourced and completely free with encryption, and temporary chat logs.
Ventrilo looks someone’s bad first open source project, but it’s proprietary. The audio quality must be orgasmic for people to use it.
it’s what people used before things like discord, that and teamspeak
It was XFire -> TS -> Vent -> Skype -> Discord for me.
RIP XFire
So like XMPP, SIP, Mumble, or Matrix without the chat part.
What happened to IRC? It worked great.
Nothing. Like, absolutely nothing. It didn’t keep up with the times. I spent am untold amount of time on IRC, but the fact that you have to be online to have a chance to read messages just doesn’t jive with most people’s schedules anymore.
Spam and other attacks did happen. And it doesn’t really handle being mobile or disconnected without some sort of proxy. Among other things.
It’s still there, but withered and infested. Kind of like Usenet and real email.
Audio quality
- Teamspeak3, Discord and Mumble all use Opus Voice
- Teamspeak2 and Ventrilo used Speex and eventually CELT. CELT is decent but Opus is better.
WIth current hardware and cheap hosting, setting Opus Voice to max quality is best.
Need alternatives to have built-in, easy to use screenshare with audio. And of course great noise filtering on voice chats.
Beginning of the end for discord probably.
I wish. I think it’s the beginning of the end to anonymous online presenses. It’s becoming more and more common for things like this to be required by corporate social media.
oh sweet discord phrenology
Its going to be so fucking racist isn’t it.
Byeeeeee
