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    I grew up with science classes telling us always state the digits individually. One point three two.

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    The first one is correct as others have said, but the second one is not ambiguous enough to confuse anyone nor weird enough for anyone to bat an eye at, you’re fine with either.

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        I’d say the second one is more correct

        In this case, it’s not about what sounds good or personal opinion, there is a standard name for that number for a reason. If I go around calling 100 “one oh oh” or “tenty ten”, it’s clear what number I mean but I can’t honestly call it more correct, because there’s a standard English name for it.

        To demonstrate a part of why it’s clearer that way, put these numbers in ascending numerical order: (e.g. 1, 2, 3, … )

        • one point three
        • one point twenty-nine
        • one point thirty
        • one point thirty-one
        • one point three-thousand-and-fifty-two

        Hopefully this clarifies that we’re not actually dealing with a “thirty-two” when we’re talking about 1.32 (edit: that said, when we’re talking about version numbers, e.g. Linux kernel 4.20, which is greater than Linux kernel 4.9, then we’d say “four point twenty”)

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    Decimals are usually spelt out a digit at a time. 3.14159 would be three point one four one five nine, not three point fourteen thousand one hundred and fifty nine. 37.32 would be thirty-seven point three two. If it’s not a decimal but something like a version string then you could say v3.14 is version three point fourteen, and three point one four might be confused with 3.1.4 even though you didn’t say the second point. IP addresses are a bit mixed; I’d say ten ten, but also one nine two dot one six eight.

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      The only way you could use ‘thirty two’ correctly for that number would be ‘one and thirty two hundredths’ which would be pretty unusual.

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    One point three two, or one three two if it’s obvious from context where the decimal point is. That’s how you’re meant to pronounce digits after the decimal point in general.

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    I mostly heard it one point thirty two? Grew up in Sweden, living in France. If someone says one point three two I’d assume they’re Americans.

    I might be totally wrong, just stating what I have heard

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      No that’s interesting, I was wondering if there was a cultural divide.

      Thirty two sounds so alien to me, but I heard it in a Nerdstalgic video and wondered if it was an American thing

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        Definitely, in frech itd be un point trente-deux mégaoctets or 1.32mo

        edit: forgot not everyone speaks french, the french version is one point thirty-two

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            Swedish would do the same as french, en komma trettitvå. Potentially some military would splice it up en komma tre två.

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          Interesting - is there a point at which you’d switch to saying individual digits? Like if you’re listing eight digits of pi, is it still three point fourteen million, one hundred fifty-nine thousand, two hundred sixty-five?

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            There doesnt seem to be a hard line, but at some point, yes. If i had to i’d put it i’d pur it once you get past the millions.

            But theres also people who say it like people in english. It might be a regional thing.

            Tell you what, i’ll ask around today and see what people say.

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      I had the same experience (also European), but didn’t know the Americans changed it specifically for bytes

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    I’d say one point thirty-two. As others noted, much depends on geography.

    Personally, I say the “actual” number up to 3 or 4 decimal places, with a lot of the reason depending on the specific context. If I had to asses, I’d say I say the “whole” number in over 50% of cases for 3 digits, and in about 10% for 4 digits. Anything over 4 decimal places and I fall back to individual digits.

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      “about a meg” because it’s almost unthinkable anyone cares about 3 tenths of a meg much less 2 hundredths.

      Tell me you never used floppy discs as a storage medium without telling me.

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      I’d round up to one and a half. Also remove “bytes” and “bites”. 1.32 MB is “one and a half megs” or even “a meg and a half”

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    I agree that the precision is not that valuable as some have said. I’d just read the numbers off as one point two three megabytes since anyone who cares can reconstruct the number, anyone who doesn’t can stick to the first few sig figs.

    For 257.62 GB I’d say “two hundred fifty seven point six two”. Yep. I put in the effort for the most significant of the digits, I dont bother beyond that.

    8249.19 GB? About 8 terabytes. Doesnt really matter anymore.

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    Neither.

    It’s pronounced: “one and thirty-two hundreths of a megabyte”. Properly.

    But idgaf how you pronounce it as long as I understand exactly what you’re saying. Personally, “one point three two”.

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      Very little, around 60k.

      A 1.44 “MB” floppy is 1440k, or about 1.406 real MB, and of that the space used by the FAT file system reduces it to around 1.38 free space.
      For some reason I couldn’t find the exact number and don’t have any handy to check it myself.

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        The floppy disk format is based on the FAT12 file system.

        https://www.cs.drexel.edu/~johnsojr/2012-13/fall/cs370/resources/UnderstandingFAT12.pdf

        And with enough creative tweaks to that file system, you can get DMF 1.68MB format, and if you think a bit outside the box and erase the redundant secondary FAT table and settle on a max of only 16 files on the disk, you can squeeze a few more kilobytes out of that even.

        I actually made a number of custom modded blank disk images with more storage space, I might dig out the full specs of all the variants later.

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        Modified versions of various blank floppies
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        These modifications reduce the number of
        FAT tables from 2 to 1 and also reduce the
        number of root entries down to 16 files,
        which frees up some extra storage space.
        
        The 1.72MB format can ONLY be used on Win9X
        systems on real hardware, as not even WinNT
        can access tracks 81 or 82 on floppy disks.
        Disk image programs like WinImage can still
        access files within 1.72MB floppy images.
        
        
        
        1.44MB Standard:
        80 Tracks		18 Sectors/Track
        2880 Sectors Total	1474560 Bytes Total
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 1	Number of FATs: 2
        Max Root Entries: 224	Sectors Per FAT: 9
        1457664 Bytes Data
        
        1.44MB Maxed:
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 1
        Max Root Entries: 64	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1470464 Bytes Data
        
        Differences:
        -------------------------------------------
        12800 Bytes More, 160 Less Root Entries
        
        
        
        1.68MB Standard:
        80 Tracks		21 Sectors/Track
        3360 Sectors Total	1720320 Bytes Total
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 1	Number of FATs: 2
        Max Root Entries: 224	Sectors Per FAT: 10
        1702400 Bytes Data
        
        1.68MB Maxed:
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 1
        Max Root Entries: 64	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1716224 Bytes Data
        
        Differences:
        -------------------------------------------
        13824 Bytes More, 160 Less Root Entries
        
        
        
        DMF 1024 Standard:
        80 Tracks		21 Sectors/Track
        3360 Sectors Total	1720320 Bytes Total
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 2	Number of FATs: 2
        Max Root Entries: 16	Sectors Per FAT: 5
        1714176 Bytes Data
        
        DMF 1024 Maxed:
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        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 1
        Max Root Entries: 64	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1716224 Bytes Data
        
        2048 Bytes More, 48 More Root Entries
        
        
        
        DMF 2048 Standard:
        80 Tracks		21 Sectors/Track
        3360 Sectors Total	1720320 Bytes Total
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 2
        Max Root Entries: 16	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1716224 Bytes Data
        
        DMF 2048 Maxed:
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 1
        Max Root Entries: 64	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1716224 Bytes Data
        
        Differences:
        -------------------------------------------
        0 Bytes More, 48 More Root Entries
        
        
        
        1.72MB Standard:
        82 Tracks		21 Sectors/Track
        3444 Sectors Total	1763328 Bytes Total
        -------------------------------------------
        Sectors Per Cluster: 1	Number of FATs: 2
        Max Root Entries: 224	Sectors Per FAT: 10
        1745408 Bytes Data
        
        1.72MB Maxed:
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        Sectors Per Cluster: 4	Number of FATs: 1
        Max Root Entries: 64	Sectors Per FAT: 3
        1759232 Bytes Data
        
        Differences:
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        13824 Bytes More, 160 Less Root Entries
        
        

        If you’re interested in the blank disk images themselves, let me know.

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        Also, 1474560 / 1024 = 1440

        If anyone could keep up with binary numbers back in the day, floppy disks were literally measured in binary megabytes.