• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    There are tons of open messaging protocols that have been replaced by closed ones. For instance, Discord shouldn’t be a thing since IRC exists, but Discord exists and is very successful.

    For some reason, likely tied to how it is used, email survived as an open protocol.

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      For instance, Discord shouldn’t be a thing since IRC exists, but Discord exists and is very successful.

      IRC lacks a massive amount of features that discord users typically want. Screensharing, VCs with group and camera support, built-in history (don’t need to use a bouncer like on IRC), built-in online GIF searcher and sender with one click, huge community of bots that use discord’s API to do anything from games to moderation.

      It isn’t even close.

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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        ICQ and AIM managed to draw a huge crowd in the early (ish) days of home Internet.

        It’s not about features…it’s about ease of use.

        Also, IRC wasn’t as decentralized as email to begin with, there were several isolated networks that would not communicate with each other (dalnet, EFnet, undernet, etc)

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          It’s not about features…it’s about ease of use.

          Its absolutely about both features and ease of use. If your program doesn’t do what people want from it, then good luck.

          Its also irrelevant to talk about considering I have used IRC and highly doubt that people are going to consider it easier to use than discord.

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            22 hours ago

            Yeah I’m giving the ease-of-use points to Discord.

            I’d agree that both are big, sure…but ICQ and AIM didn’t have attachments or GIFs or screensharing, They barely had text formatting. Yet they were still bigger than the semi-decentralized (but at least standards-based) IRC. The features weren’t the big lure, it was the ease of use.

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      Discord (to me) has better UX than any IRC I’ve ever experienced.

      Email, on the other hand, is total baloney if it’s not interoperable. It’s why SMS/MMS is like a zombie that just won’t die, and telecoms are more cooperative than most of Big Tech.

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      Yeah, it’s the widespread adoption/necessity that made email what it is. Discord was able to largely replace IRC because not a lot of people were using IRC. Everybody has an email account though-- you need one to order a pizza ffs