So…yeah. Seems MS, in their endless wisdom has decided to rename their virtual desktop software, called before as “Remote Desktop” (and good luck trying to find issues with that that are not related to the old RDP tool MTSC.exe) to… “Windows App”. Perfect. Now everything will look like everything, and there’s no way to ever try to search for help for it. Next in line, I guess they can call it just “App”. I’m sure that will help everyone.

  • Rooty@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    1 day ago

    At this point i’m pretty sure most windows users have a degradation fetish they’re too ashamed to admit.

  • reksas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    14·
    2 days ago

    Are they doing this on purpose? Why would they even do something like that?

    • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      Having worked on products that are renamed to something equally ambiguous, I’d say they are trying to make it more difficult to find because they are trying to redirect customer attention to other places, and are deliberately making it difficult to talk about or search for. Unfortunately this is a very successful strategy. It’s also very user hostile, and product engineer hostile. My heart goes out to any engineers that work in this product.

      • reksas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        So they dont want people using remote desktop? What would they even get out of that, just making windows even worse to use. I guess its one less thing to maintain. Well, windows becoming worse is good for linux userbase so this is kind of good news in a way.

  • SuperCub@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    13·
    2 days ago

    Probably another case of too many bean counters (and marketing majors), and not enough software developers. Windows hasn’t innovated in forever. Seems like they’re the Walmart of operating systems, just cheaper and easier for most people.

    • pseudonaut@lemmy.worldEnglish
      101·
      1 day ago

      I don’t want my OS to innovate. I just want it to be reliable. I can say this for MS, I haven’t seen a blue or any other color screen of death for, God, a decade? I’m pretty happy with Windows these days.

      • OmgItBurns@discuss.onlineEnglish
        2·
        20 hours ago

        I’ve had the opposite happen since switching to Windows 11. Multiple BSODs a week on both machines. Super frustrating.

        • JordanZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          19 hours ago

          If you have the Pro or Enterprise variant of Win11 you can delay feature releases for a year. Makes it way more stable. Here is a link. The anchoring might be off a bit(it was for me). I had to scroll down a bit further. You still get security releases, it’s just all the ‘features’ that get delayed so you can figure out how to work around them.

    • Opacity9850@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 days ago

      Had been windows 10 user since 2015 (no pc before that), installed linux mint a month ago and was surprised how smooth everything was!

      Sorry windows but Im never coming back.

    • Jimmycakes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      301·
      2 days ago

      They don’t want you searching it. They want you to pay them to fix it. With Ai presumably

      • ExtantHuman@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        AI still needs to be able to identify the thing you’re asking about. The AI still searches for things if it’s not already in its memory-it even tells you when it’s scanning different sources.

        That all breaks with bad seo

        • Jimmycakes@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          It’s built into windows it’s a windows feature that’s broken. Once it crashes it will ask you to have Ai look at it for a fix.

      • ExtantHuman@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        AI still uses SEO or it’s database equivalent to figure out what you’re talking about about. Or to scan for new info - which they currently do

        • jsomae@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          20 hours ago

          Yeah, retrieval-augmented generation and AI web-search will still run into some trouble with this. But if it knows about it in its weights, then it will be fine.

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      21·
      2 days ago

      This would probably matter more if every search for “windows 10 problem XY” wouldn’t turn up 100% garbage from their support forums anyway.

    • That Weird Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I saw a video recently they said the google search being bad is intentional. Because then you have to spend more time on google, thus seeing more ads.

      That’s a bold move cotton. Let’s see how it plays out

    • Dan@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      Yes, but I feel that’s strategic to make us feel we need AI to do the work for us.

  • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    2 days ago

    Yeah my dad’s boss had this issue a couple weeks ago. His remote desktop app disappeared from his phone and he had no idea where. Figured out after looking for a whole day that they renamed it to this stupid bullshit.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2481·
    3 days ago

    Oh, I can help remotely… I just need you to open Windows App.

    Which app?

    Windows App.

    I get that, I’m running Windows, but which app?

    Windows App.

    Look, are you being smart? I’m in Windows, say I click on the Start button, which app do I click on?

    Windows App.

    Allright you, let’s say the app is already running…

    Sure.

    And I press CTRL-ALT-DEL and open Task Manager.

    OK.

    WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP I WOULD SEE IN TASK MANAGER??!???

    Windows App.

    I’M ASKING YOU, ‘WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP’???!??!??

    I’m telling you, ‘Windows App.’

  • pappabosley@lemm.eeEnglish
    23·
    2 days ago

    Makes sense, the CEO was just saying the other day that 30% of their code was written by AI

  • altphoto@lemmy.todayEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    Ever since Ford renamed all car components to car components it has been a total bitch to change a tire…

    Me: hello jiffy lube, I have a flat car components.

    JL: Well bring it right in, we’ll fix that for you

    Me: here’s the car with the flat car components.

    JL: oh I see, you’ve been in an accident. Yeah we don’t fix that sort of flat car components. Go to Joe Shmow’s Auto repair.

    JSAR: yah, I looked everywhere for a fix to flat components and found nothing worth trying. Cat videos yeah. But maybe if we hammer a few more things.

    Me: but that’s the problem see this is supposed to be a dowel car component, but its flat. It used to be the thing a ma bob. But now its just another car components.

    …the conversation would then drag on and included the economy, and politics.

  • That Weird Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    61·
    2 days ago

    recently, I need to remote desktop from Mac to Windows, and I was searching around for products, and I came across a blog post recommending Windows App, and I had no fucking idea what it was. I thought it may have been a windows 8 app that is discontinued. The geniuses at microsoft SUCK at naming. Xbox, Xbox 360, xbox One (which was actually the third iteration, for some reason), xbox series x/s. Like wtf.

    • tfm@europe.pubEnglish
      28·
      2 days ago

      Windows 1, 2, 3, 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista, 7???, 8, 8.1, 10???, 11, 11 21H2, 11 22H2, …

          • Manalith@midwest.socialEnglish
            6·
            2 days ago

            That already exists as their cloud virtual desktop service.

            Edit: I could see them releasing a line of products and an ISO for Windows365Client that just makes the machine a thin client dedicated to rdping, or I guess Windows Apping now, to the Windows365 PC.

          • Zink@programming.devEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            I thought they were supposed to do the whole “last version of Windows that will be updated forever” with Windows 10, and of course abandoned that some time ago.

            My gut feeling is that their product management marketing folks came to the conclusion that Windows as a subscription was not going to work for the consumer market where the OS is something that’s just part of the device you buy. And in discussions with system OEMs they made the decision that consumers like it when the version number goes up, so increasing that windows number every several years will move systems.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyzEnglish
            4·
            2 days ago

            Bold of you to think I have any expectations of Microsoft to not suck. I will wait until 9 comes out before I put another windows OS on my machines. Since why after all this, would anyone trust a software company to do anything well that can not count to 10?

    • ElectricMachman@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      Autopilot and Autopilot Device Preparation spring to mind. Two distinct products, and yet they’ve gone down the Wii U naming route

    • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
      101·
      2 days ago

      The geniuses at microsoft SUCK at naming

      Apple is worse. Everything has the same name but gen 1, gen 2, gen 3 as a suffix.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      don’t worry, microsoft will surely make a discord where all their knowledge bases and information will be moved to, making it even easier to find info than it already is /s

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          I honestly would be down with that.

          Mostly because I’d love to see discord go under and to have tech support and interaction go back to websites and forums, where they are indexed, searchable, and archivable so information can be easily searched for again, and not lost forever should a discord go under.

    • podperson@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      I don’t work for them, but I’d recommend Jump Desktop for that. Works very well and has been out for quite some time.

    • turtlesareneat@discuss.onlineEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      Same but - I was actually relieved Microsoft finally MADE an RDP client for Mac again. What was wrong with RDP for Mac? It was fine and they axed it. But them replacing RDP everywhere is just hilarious.

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        They didn’t even change anything except the ui. It’s still just old rdp with less features.

      • axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        I doubt it will even happen though. Microsoft’s forcing AI on everything already and yet it hasn’t moved the needle. Microsoft has to do some wilder shit to even move people to Linux. Influencers and awareness don’t really help that much as shown by PewDiePie’s video about him moving to Linux.

        • rami@ani.socialEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          I’ve been on the brink for a while but learning a whole new OS is going to be hard with a dissociative disorder. though I did just find out game compatibility is way better than I thought, so that’s one roadblock down.

          im usually the most tech savvy of my friends and no one I know is already using it. That’s kind of the situation I assume most people are in. no one they know is using Linux and for whatever reason they don’t have the ability or time to learn it themselves.

          • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            People aren’t in the habit of thinking of computing as an inherently a political choice, but it is.

            Computing is a tool, not a thing you merely consume or use for consumption. Yet the tech industry is very motivated to get us thinking of it that way, while positioning themselves as the middlemen. That’s probably the real reason they’re so excited about AI, it’s a way to turn computing into something you rent.

    • bishbosh@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      Hey that’s not fair, they recently added tabs to their file explore. I mean sure it has a shared history, so if you open a new tab and navigate, then return to the previous tab back takes to you their useless ‘home screen’, but still, there are tabs kinda!