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    Nope, JS is “You think you are nerd”.

    Also, why React is there? It’s a lib not a language

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    Ah, yes. My favourite programming language (checks notes) HTML…

    If your favourite programming language is HTML, we do not grant you the title of Nerd.

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    A real nerd would know that React is a library and HTML is a markup language, and neither are programming languages.

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    matlab is nobody’s favourite language. although using it does require an engineering degree, which makes you a nerd.

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    Most of these are scripting languages. Some are even markup languages. It’s like the meme creator didn’t even know what a programming language was.
    I hope someone got fired for that blunder

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        Some people think that only compiled languages are true programming languages. (Needless to say, they’re wrong.)

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          Needless to say, they’re wrong.

          Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

          Which is to say that it’s a property of the tooling rather than the language itself. There’s nothing stopping anyone from writing a C interpreter or a Python compiler.

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            There’s nothing stopping anyone from writing a C interpreter

            Except god, hopefully

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            Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

            I’d say there is (but the line is a bit blurry). IMHO the main distinction is the presence (and prevalence) of eval semantics in the language; if it is present, then any “compiler” would have to embed itself into the generated code, thus de-facto turning it into a bundled interpreter.

            That said, the argument that interpreted languages are somehow not programming languages is stupid.

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          Yeah, once you know all the details, the distinction disappears. The term doesn’t clarify understanding.

          If I had to make a distinction, it’d be that scripting languages are meant to be a simple way to serve a specific niche. Things like SQL or Excel formulas. It doesn’t apply to Python.

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        Do you know what community you’re in? Do you want to start a war?


        There is no clear definition because there is a lot of overlap, especially when you get into the details, but:

        • Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

        • Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control. Although the access varies from Assembly to languages a C programmer would consider “scripting”.

        Although for every example, there is basically a counter example. Because programmers being who they are, see it as a challenge to do something with a language that others consider impossible or wrong.

        For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

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          For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

          No way this exists.

          Wtf, it exists. Why would anyone do that to the world?

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          Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

          Then Python is not a scripting language.

          Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control.

          Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

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            The first comment worked as bait, but that last question is way too obvious.


            Although just for fun:

            Then Python is not a scripting language.

            That is true. It is often used as one, but it was developed from the start as a general-purpose language.

            Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

            You know about Python, Perl and C. You know the answer and you’re just trying to incense people.

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              No, I’m trying to get people to think. If I laid out my full opinions on this subject (compilers and interpreters aren’t that different anymore, even machine code often runs more like bytecode in many ways, “scripting” is a term that hides what’s actually going on, etc.), then people get into endless debates. My questions are designed to pick apart assumptions.

              Admittedly, people didn’t appreciate when Socrates did this shit, either.

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        One is:

        • a scripting/interpreted language needs an interpreter to be installed on the target system in order to run
        • a programming/compiled language needs a compiler on the host machine and will run as-is standalone in the target machine

        /me ducks for cover

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          Still a language to make the computer do something. Thus, programming language. Scripts are programs.

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    I think simply knowing what the “F” is means you’re old and a nerd.

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    I am old and a nerd and I don’t see Perl on here.

    Wait… is it the tiny camel at the bottom?

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    No Haskell so I’m not a nerd 😎. Though from the languages I use the most (Java & Python) and other languages I enjoy (Rust, Julia) I can infer that I’m probably a bit of a nerd.

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    Bottom right should be “You’re a nerd and getting old”.

    Source: I was dicking around with mod_perl yesterday.

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        It’s mainly a tool for working with matrices (matrix laboratory). This is useful for solving ordinary differential equations. Learning Matlab is usually a requirement for first year engineering students. I’m now a licensed chemical engineer, and I haven’t used Matlab since sophomore year.

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      I’ve had more than one job where Matlab was used extensively, guess my coworkers and I aren’t real engineers.

      I’d rather use something else, but if it’s what the group already uses, fine, I’ll do it

      Also, I don’t do a ton of true programming on it. It’s a fancy calculator, and occasionally I make a GUI app with it

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          I mean, I agree with you, I’d never pay for a Matlab license for myself if I ever decide to go the private engineering consultant route. Just sharing my experience that yes, it’s used in the professional world.

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            It’s just so weird to me. I’ve worked at a few big companies and Matlab was just kind of out of the question at any of them. It was Excel or Python

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      So many come out of school with Matlab experience. I get them started with python. They brush me off. Then the license server goes down. Welcome to open source grasshopper! I should make a meme about this and put on my door…

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      If we’re talking real engineering (like professional accredited engineering and not programmers calling themselves engineers) you couldn’t be more wrong. It isn’t used in deployment necessarily but for modeling and analysis it has no equal.