Not only is Trump leveling science funding at NASA, like he did with the National Science Foundation, but look closely at the budget. Beginning next year at 800 million and by 2030, 3.5 billion (nearly 20% of its budget), NASA is required to work towards “Commercial Moon and Mars Infrastructure and Transportation”. The ultimate subsidy for the commercial space sector.
They also eliminated STEM engagement program, which provided funding for the next generation of scientists to participate in NASA opportunities. I can’t wait for all this greatness Trump has been preaching to arrive.
So, we all know what’s going on here, right? They’re gutting any part of our society that relies on intellectual work and trying to compete with motherfucking robots to bring factories back. They want to cram everyone into sweatshops. The plan was never to bring good jobs back, the plan was always live-in factories and suicide nets on the windows.
E: well, at least the Roman space telescope lives on, I guess. I’m unreasonably excited for it; it’s already built and just needs to be launched, basically.
The Roman telescope will likely get shoved in storage. I work on it right now, we are talking internally about what this means. Obviously, I have no more information than you do, but the cuts are severe enough that there’s no way we will be able to keep working on it at the current levels if this goes through.
FUCK. Wishing you guys all the best!
The plan was never to bring good jobs back, the plan was always live-in factories and suicide nets on the windows.
Bold of you to assume they’ll spring for nets.
Gotta protect your assets
And appearances are a more valuable asset to corporations than employees.
Humbug. If the pleb jumps, it just shows they don’t appreciate the ruling class.
This is the same vibe as when the CEO gets a million dollar raise but we don’t have money for cost of living increases this year.
Sorry USA kids. No astronaut program this summer. Dream smaller this year.
Traitorapist Trump just set back the likely date for getting people to mars by roughly a quarter century. And yes, because of what Trump did it is very possible it will be accomplished first by another country.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT NEVER
So, Trump wants NASA to get to the Moon and Mars by 2030 while on a slashed budget with limited scientists? Get ready for more spacecraft to drop out of the sky.
No, Trump does not want NASA to get to the Moon or Mars.
Trump wants NASA to be a tool that funnel money from the government to billionaires, aka Musk and Bezos
Nu-uh magic Musk is going to fix all our problems.
Sadly, getting more places with less money is absolutely possible, but the key to making it happen is abandoning planetary science. It’s a shift from a paradigm where engineering exists to support planetary science efforts to engineering for engineering’s sake
It’s okay. Europe and China will replace the US and the world will be better off.
Not sure that’s true, but alright
Not sure about what? The US is certainly getting replaced, and we’ll all be better off if the Great Satan isn’t the center of scientific progress.
we’ll all be better off if the Great Satan isn’t the center of scientific progress.
No, I wouldn’t be better off living in a country where women are arrested and killed for appearing in public without a silly garment covering their head.
Hail Satan
The women in that country would be better off without the US constantly attacking them.
The great…Satan? …Wat? Is that Europe orr… China?
You must be young. The Iranians and other parts of the middle east have referred to us since at least the 80s, and probably before.
When we brought a bunch of Nazis in after WWII and installed them in positions of importance (like heading NASA by Wernher von Braun) I think we gave them a pretty reasonable argument.
It’s like everyday I learn more and more about how shitty this country’s history is.
If you dig into any country’s history you’re going to find some gems.
Don’t worry, you’re not wrong about China — what’s going on in the U.S. is just more televised.
You know, because of the ‘freedoms’ and whatnot.
Honestly, operation paperclip doesn’t even make it into the top 10.
Consider this, we could have put them on trial, but they were low down enough to get some jail time and then get sent back to Germany at worst. We could have let the Russian have them, or we could have just executed them. All in, bringing them here and using their expertise isn’t the worst thing.
Because you seem confused, “Satan” here would be America’s insane and unstable government body who is openly trying to dismantle scientific and medical research/funding that could improve our futures and the world imho <3
I sincerely encourage you to check out documentaties about china that dont start with genocide. You will see that today its used as red scare.
Lol so… you just willfully ignore the shit they do…got it
Fuckin tankies.
What you’re doing is called a strawman.
Of course one should not ignore crimes against humanity. I’m saying we are reducing people, countries and systems based on what agenda we have today.
Lol no a strawman is presenting a different argument than what’s being discussed. I said nothing of the sort and just called you out for your bullshit tankie thoughts. The USA isn’t some bastion of freedom, but to act like china or russia is better by ignoring the shit they’re currently doing is full on tankie ignorance.
My country is in serious trouble but at least we never ran over protesting college students with tanks and then washed them down the drains.
Israel runs over people with its US tanks and it’s the 51st state, so, let’s not throw stones in this big shitty glass house?
Thanks for the whataboutism. Israel can go fuck itself too, they are worse at the moment.
I don’t need everyone else to be perfect to level valid criticism.
Its totally okay to criticise crimes against humanity, as I said. But china hate is not rooted in reality. They did wrong, as did everyone else.
Please note the very real situation I mentioned above. That’s reality whether China wants to try and scrub it from history or not. The fact that they won’t even let their citizens discuss it is telling enough. They deserve the hate.
china that dont start with genocide
Yes is sucks for the Chinese that their government keeps committing genocide and they don’t have any way to end that by choosing their own leaders. Except for our lucky friends in Taiwan.
keeps committing genocide
- Can you prove that?
- Have you bothered to check out anything else about china?
. Europe and China will replace the US and the world will be better off.
Only if China finally gets to choose their own leaders. Until then it is fucked up even worse.
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Now?
More openly than before with even less recourse.
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They can carry weapons also.
Trump is doing more for the science programs in other nations than those nations ever could.
It’s not like American scientists and intellectuals will flee to other nations that value themselves more, crippling US innovation…right?
I seriously don’t understand why he is doing this. Isn’t trump friends with eslong musk? The way i’m seeing this is cutting the budget for nasa would only go against elon. If he wanted to save money, then he should have just cut military spending.
Trump doesn’t want to save money, he wants to reward people who reward him. You can’t analyze anything he does in terms of anything he claims to be doing.
His goal is a destroy the United States of America.
His goal is a destroy the United States of America.
Once everyone understands this, his actions make sense.
It also aligns suspiciously well with Putin’s goals.
Putin won the cold war. This is what it looks like.
Is NASA a threat to Elon’s monopolization of launches?
Pretty much, why let the public sector do something when you can funnel government contracts to private industry for kickbacks?
Arm up and say no fucking way goddammit
