Looks like covid lockdown time.
Because that’s when the picture was taken.
Which means OP is spreading misinformation by saying they should just park and go inside.
They literally weren’t allowed to because of covid.
Misinformation? In this community? How unexpexted.
Though it’s true that this particular picture was taken during covid time, it does not mean its any less true in conveying what North American car culture has actually done to our cities and infrastructure planning/implementation.
Here is a video of how school drop off’s work in North America for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLpCMdVcqTI
Looking at this particular plot of land in the image OP has posted. Land use is very poorly utilized. You have one business surrounded by a parking lot. This same space could have easily in a European city fit 5 or more businesses with plenty of residential units above and still be left with place for green space or a park.
30 people getting coffee vs 30 people getting coffee.
And a comparable parcel of land roughly the same size. Its night and day in terms of utilization of land alone.
This is probably during COVID when the inside was off limits.
Plenty of people still use the drive through, but the complete lack of anyone in the carpark is sus.
I work fast food. When shorthanded, which is all the time, if the line is wrapped around the building but the customers are at least not coming inside, service can be at least normal slow instead of slower than fuck. More customers can be served per hour via drive through than front counter with any level of staffing. When people start coming inside, suddenly drive through employees are getting stuck standing in front of registers and overall service speeds go from just slow to slower than fuck.
Nearly every fast food place in the UK has gone to self serve machines because of that, and taken away the ability to even take orders at the registers.
Although in practice it now means a bunch of staff helping old people use the self serve, rather than just taking the orders.
I very rarely even go there. The food isn’t even fast. It seems mostly cooked to order because it’s cheaper to waste my time than it is to give away a handful of old burgers at the end of the day.
I’m in New Jersey, and mobile orders are big now. On the rare occasion we hit Wendy’s (I can smell it from my front door, it’s hard), we do the mobile order. I order, get in the car, park, walk in, grab it, walk out. I couldn’t imagine ordering upon arrival at this point.
I see this kind of thing regularly at my local Raising Cane’s Chicken Fingers restaurant when it hits dinner time. The cars wrap around the building and block other traffic.
Same for the DQ where I live.
This would be a believable theory if I didn’t see huge lines of cars outside fast food restaurants every day before and after COVID.
“We” probably have a too European view on this. Though walking/biking also makes the parking lots emptier
Was this taken during covid lockdowns when the indoor section was closed and there was no other option?
i think so. found this article
edit: and this
Yes, definitely. I remember this exact picture.
Without cars, plenty of those businesses wouldn’t be able to have customers and would have gone bankrupt because of it.
This is a misinformation post made to circlejerk about shitting on cars.
There are plenty of reasons to shit on them, this one isn’t it.
Okay but that’s assuming the drive thru system is the only way to handle distanced transactions. They could have a counter with a wall they push your food through so that people could stand in line without having this ridiculous line blocking traffic. Back during covid my family got a lot less fast food because I don’t drive so they literally couldn’t serve me, and also my mom just loathes the drive thru experience with a burning passion.
This shit happens daily at the in-n-out near me. My wife swears th wait is worth it. Drives me nuts.
Until you realize that they purposefully understaff and now your front counter guy has to prioritize drive thru times over your order because that’s the only metric corporate measures.
They just need to add one more lane, bro.
Is nobody mentioning the fact that there are 4 lane roads surrounding the entire coffee shop? Like thats absolutely the least or one of the least efficient ways you could do urban planning. In areas similar to this where I live, the block sizes are at least like 5x wider and longer than whatever this is.
Great point, what sort of a hellscape is that!?
People were getting annoyed at the queue, so they kept adding one more lane?
Nah, they probably added more all around to make it “more convenient” for drivers to keep going straight and still get to the many different destinations possible, but they could just have one road and the drivers could head around a roundabout or something.
They needed to spend millions to add an extra lane so it could handle the queue to the coffee shop. Unfortunately there was nothing left in the budget for bike lanes, it just wasn’t a priority.
Well. Some places don’t offer counter service and their doors are locked. You have to use the drive thru. Otherwise I agree with you except I don’t get to even talk to a human, I am directed to a kiosk. And they flash a tip option. A tip for what?
Hardworking appliances depend on tips to provide electrons to their families. If you don’t tip the kiosk that kiosk might go home and have to explain to it’s toaster that they can only afford to use the low power settings.
Otherwise I agree with you except I don’t get to even talk to a human, I am directed to a kiosk.
Honestly I’m a big fan of this. If I’m eating at a fast food restaurant, I’m having a bad day. And if you are working at a fast food restaurant, I feel odds are that you are having a bad day, too. Why should we inflict our bad days on each other?
And they flash a tip option. A tip for what?
I’m confused as to why people are consistently so upset by this. What happens is obvious. A restaurant buys some POS software to plug into their checkout system. Since the software is used in many different restaurants with many different needs, it has an option for tipping. The person installing the software sees the option and says “hey, if someone wants to give us more money, why not give them the option?”, checks a box on a config screen they will never open again, and then goes to lunch. Just select “No Tip” and move on with your life.
First, the city should be ticketing every single vehicle that is parking in the road and blocking traffic. If I was a cop, I would just park myself right there and hand out easy tickets all day every day. Being in line for a drive through does not excuse blocking traffic.
But the bigger issue that people here are missing is that going into the store may not actually save you any time. Often when I’ve tried that at places like McDonalds, the drive through is far faster than waiting in the kitchen. Their whole operation is optimized for the drive through, and in-kitchen orders end up stuck in this weird ghetto backlog that they’ll get to when they feel like getting to it.
If you are in the appropriate lane for the turn you intend to make, and the car in front of you isn’t moving, I’m pretty sure the law doesn’t require you to pick a different destination or ram the car ahead of you. What the law should be is a different question, but cop you would just see a bunch of tickets thrown out in quick succession. I don’t know what that realistically means for the job, but it can’t be good.
genuinely every time I go inside a place, it’s faster than drive through
There is a popular place near me where the line could be as long as the photo and they would get you through in a few minutes. Of course that involves having several people walking the cars getting orders and taking money. The window hands out the food as fast as the drivers can pull up. It’s insane but impressive.
I don’t think those are actual roads; they look like the parking lot roads you find in various commercial complexes. They are technically considered private property, as such traffic laws don’t exactly apply the same way.
Everyone behind the silver car at the parking lot entrance is illegally blocking the road. Regardless of the car culture problem or OP’s disingenuous use of a CoViD era image out of context, those people needed to go away. If you can’t get your coffee without parking in the street, you don’t get coffee at that location at that time. Safety is more important than someone getting their sugar/caffeine fix.
The legality really depends on the jurisdiction. Where I live, it is 100% the business responsibility to ensure this doesn’t happen, and if it does, there are big fines for the business, the customer is not at fault.
Plenty of things the business could do to reduce this, such as making people park up after ordering (a very popular option where I live), increasing prices to reduce their demand, having a digital queue system, removing the drive-through altogether, etc.
Business passes small bribe to local politician
“No longer our problem”
Wishful thinking, but the fines are far greater than any business would be willing to pay as a bribe
Drive through times are often prioritized
So many places do order ahead now, though. I don’t go to starbucks often, but when I do, I order ahead from my house, ride over on my electric board, walk in, grab my already made drink, and leave. In and out of the building in 15 seconds. Meanwhile, the drive-through extends through the entire parking lot barely moving. Absolute chumps.
Not to excuse it but some restaurants prioritize drive through over the people who order inside.
Because if you go in there is just no one taking your order and they completely deprioritize it too. Takes just as long or longer half the time I’ve tried
They’ll tell you it’s because “nobody wants to work” when the reality is that people just stopped putting up with that job for the scraps they were paid. These places were never successful and deserve to go out of business as they rely on poverty wages for their existence.
That’s part of carbrain culture. Where I live, both options are equally fast because drive through is seldom used. And Germany is actually very carbrainy, but perhaps not completely lost yet.
I was ready to go in here and say I won’t get out of my car until I see the others in my group show up to whatever place we’re eating. I’ve got some social anxiety issues though.
This though…this is fucking stupid. I see this shit at coffee stands like Dutch Bros all the time. They have a walk up window. It’s like 5x faster to get the fuck out of your car, order at the window, and walk away with your sugar bomb.
The same with fast food. My wife worked at BK on an AFB for a long time. Airmen would line up in the drive through. Inside was near empty. Same deal. It’d be much faster to get out of my truck, go in, order my shit, and leave. Then they’d have the audacity to complain that the place was “wasting their lunch break.” Bitch, there’s a commissary with fresh sushi in it, always stocked, a made to order deli sub place in the back, and lots of other healthy things. You could also bring your own food from home. You could also get out of the fucking car and get it.
I’m not fully anti car as everyone on here, though I do get it and wish there was better mass transit and walkable areas. I do think vehicles have their uses, and that MT isn’t an option for everyone. That said, this type of shit is stupid af. Stop clogging up the roads. Stop wasting gas. Stop polluting with your idling bullshit (I’m seeing at least 3 gas guzzlers in the pic in the comments.)
This is also incredibly dangerous. Blocking a lane causes backups further down. It causes people to have to merge into other lanes. Often times people don’t pay attention and dodge at the last minute, or they get frustrated/angry and make stupid decisions.
They call it the Chair Force for a reason. Getting up and walking would go against their ethos.
Was chair force, I can confirm. There were a lot of lazy ass people.
Most people here are not totally against cars. We’re mainly against car-centric design. Of course cars have uses, specially for the disabled.
Dutch bros isn’t coffee lol it’s sugar water with flavoring
I always tell my wife she can save money and just eat out of the bag of sugar we have at home.
The brain rot is insane. Every Starbucks and Chickfila.
I hope this isn’t a photo from mode pandemic… I mean fuck cars and all that, but drive thru was clutch for a bit there.
Someone mentioned that it was indeed pandemic time. Hence the lack of any parked cars.
