Privacy is a part of security. There’s more to security than just privacy.
To give an example, telling a friend where you’ll be if you go on a date is sacrificing some privacy for security.
They can be exclusive too. If you run a public server in your DMZ, but keep your personal information behind your firewall, the public server is not secure but you are still practicing good privacy.
Never heard of those two being opposed.
The trade-off of security is widely known to be convenience, not privacy.
Consider all the governments currently trying to pass dangerous, invasive, anti-privacy, anti-encryption laws in the name of “safety”. I think that’s what the OP is talking about.
It’s not applicable to individuals. Think of society as the whole. I want access to encryption to protect my tax files. Pedos want encryption to pass illicit pix. As a society, should we pass laws that support encryption (privacy), or laws that restrict encryption (security).
punishing everyone for the crimes of a few is intolerable in many free societies
So is getting molested.
And there’s the tension, perfectly captured by the last two replies. And it is extensible to anarchy vs authoritarianism. Because we are a species unable of setting individual wants below societal needs without a prevailing existential threat (starvation, disease, war, etc.)
All privacy is security, but not all security is privacy.
There’s overlap but they are different concepts.
Security is about protecting all assets, tangible or not. Privacy is really about protecting personal and/or identifiable information.
Security is a part of privacy.
For example, you may block cookies in your browser. That is a privacy measure, but not really a security measure.
You say that right up until a tracking cookie links some accounts together that otherwise weren’t and some nut job buys your data from a data broker and comes to your house to kill you.
Both security and privacy are forms of control. This can be confusing, but there is a difference. I think of it like this:
Security is your control over who can access your data. If someone is accessing your data after you’ve tried to prevent them from doing so, that’s a security breach. You’ll need to improve something on your end to fix it.
Privacy is your control over what people and companies can do with your data once you’ve granted them access to it. This one can be harder to fix when something goes wrong, and it can mean anything from adjusting some settings that you didn’t know existed to changing who you vote for in government elections.
It’s only weird until you realize they aren’t talking about your “personal” security. They couldn’t care less about you.
Not exactly, but security as in “let us pass a law that makes end-to-end encryption in messengers illegal” can go and fuck right off
Sorry, but we can only get so much security by giving up your privacy, now we need the kind of security that can only be bought by giving up your security as well.
