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    I love how the answer to the Middle East problem is a nuke, and not just, I don’t know, leaving us alone for a change.

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          Again, nowhere in the image is it saying they were helped to nuke themselves.

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              And the image isn’t in our reality 🤷‍♂ You really think someone is going to nuke the middle east and humanity is going to survive a blast bigger than one that killed the dinosaurs?

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                No, I think there is a perpetual war going on there, and US is getting involved in it with depressing frequency with depressingly negative results, and although I don’t believe it will be inevitability, randomly bombing random countries surely is a good recipe for a bad outcome.

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      Imagine how much potassium they could export with direct access to the GZ Ocean?

      Edit: And Russia would have warm water ports! Ukraine War averted!

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          See my last paragraph here. TL;DR: it might indeed do that, but only in the vacuous truth sense that no human societies would be left to make war.

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    It looks much larger than the Chicxulub crater (~200km diameter 72 tera tonnes of TNT), this must be a exatonne explosion, I measured the crater diameter to about 3500km!

    It would take decades or centuries before the sky would clear after such an explosion, most likely resulting in a mass extinction event.

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      Considering that we’re in the midst of the Anthropocene mass extinction event already, I’d say it would be a certainty. The only question would be how bad it would get. Given how much larger that crater would be than Chicxulub, I’m guessing it would exceed the “Great Dying” (Permian-Triassic extinction event) to take the crown.

      Edit: The Wilkes Land Crater in Antarctica, which may be associated with the Great Dying, was “only” a little over 2.5 times larger in diameter than Chicxulub and thus still way smaller than the crater depicted. That said, I guess a nuclear crater wouldn’t be associated with a flood basalt “exit wound” at the antipode the way an impact crater might be, so maybe it wouldn’t be comparable.

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      Trump solves global warming with nuclear weapons. Get his Nobel prize ready.

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        That’s actually a brilliant idea. Once you eradicate most of the humanity, the rest will sort itself out.

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      it would also shatter tectonic plates, create rifts and reverse the directions some plates were moving, the asteroid impact you mention resulted in the Indian subcontinent (I’m simplifying a lot of things right now)

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        Well, now you’ve piqued my curiosity. Got a link?

        The Wikipedia article I’m reading right now says that the Indian plate split from Gondwana 100 MY ago (33 MY before the Chicxulub impact), so that’s not the connection. Further down the page, it says that the plate movement might have sped up as it passed over the mantle plume from the impact that created the Deccan Traps (my interpretation, BTW; the science isn’t actually as settled as I’m making it out to be), but it seems to me that that wouldn’t change the “result” of the plate colliding with Asia and creating the Indian Subcontinent, only the timing of the collision.

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    crazy how the bomb ignored the island in the middle, didn’t know we had donut nukes

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    The Atomic Sea

    or, if a Fallout fan, “The Glowing Sea”

  • Whatever made that crater was an ELE. Bigger than Chicxulub.

    We have plenty of great filters to navigate:

    We end war, or we die.

    We restore the atmosphere and rebuild global ecology, or we die.

    We end stratified society and power disparity, or we die.

    Where are all the aliens? Fermi asked. The first question is, how do we navigate our way to becoming a space-faring, world colonizing species, ourselves? It’s turning out to be pretty difficult for the common hominid.

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      Not to mention skynet. It always bothers me when people leave AI out of lists of x-risks. I guess it’s because a popular sci-fi movie predicted it would happen, so nobody takes it seriously. Or perhaps it’s just because AI is so unpopular now, nobody wants to devote any time to thinking about the ramifications of it becoming smarter.

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        Courtesy of XKCD, long before we have to contend with unfriendly AI (we have committees of AI-techs working on this problem already) we’ll have to contend with someone like Musk or Bezos determined to own everything and capable of creating an AI-controlled army of killer robots.

        We’re not sure how rogue AI is going to manifest. We are sure rogue power-seeking humans exist all the time, and positions of power are commonly filled by them. (That’s the primary argument for election by sortition, or by lottery.)

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          Ok, so to be clear, you’re saying that AI x-risk is already partially or even mostly bundled under “We end stratified society and power disparity, or we die.”?

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            That is a good assessment. Yes.

            In fact, the race between capitalist interests to bypass safety and get operational AGI soonest is entirely about getting that power to be able to use it to hold everyone else hostage.

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              Yeah, fair enough, I do agree that this is largely driven by capitalism, and if we didn’t have a capitalist society we would hopefully be going about this more cautiously. Still, I feel like it’s a unique enough situation that I would consider it its own x-risk.

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      No, because (a) that’s way, way bigger than any single bomb would make (the largest nuclear crater ever made was “only” about 390m across), and (b) actual nuclear weapon attacks would be detonated as air-bursts and therefore wouldn’t make craters at all to begin with.

      The afore-mentioned crater was the result of an underground test, BTW. Also, it was designed to make a big crater, being part of Project Plowshare. The largest bomb ever detonated, the Tsar Bomba, left no crater because it was an air-burst at 4,000m altitude.

      Also, a crater that big would be an extinction-level event. For comparison, Chicxulub crater, from the impact that ended the dinosaurs, is “only” about as wide as “Mossad Island” in this image.