• Homesnatch@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    If I recall correctly, they didn’t have enough votes for single-payer and passed the compromise that they could get done .

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      18 days ago

      Single payer was never on the table, (and if centrists have their way it never will be) and the public option was a bill of goods designed to be jettisoned from the outset.

      They had a supermajority. Like always, they find enough no votes.

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        18 days ago

        The country gave them a supermajority and then the bar became “Well you didn’t give us every seat in congress so womp womp.”

        Just more bullshit. In no universe does either major party want to lose out on the health insurance confidence scheme bribe money.

        The county met them on their nearly impossible terms which a supermajority is, we met our end. they’re just bullshit artists running a con just like the Republican fascists.

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        18 days ago

        The original plan for ACA had a single-payer option.

        The compromised ACA itself passed the house only by a couple votes. The party is not a monolith and had a number of moderates that opposed single-payer.

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          18 days ago

          The original plan for ACA had a single-payer option.

          Like hell it did.

          The compromised ACA

          The version they always intended to pass.

          The party is not a monolith

          They expect the voters to vote as a bloc but won’t do so themselves.

          and had a number of moderates that opposed single-payer.

          No matter how big a majority democrats have, they always find just enough no votes.

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            18 days ago

            It’s Manchin, straight up. And then Ted Kennedy died and they lost the supermajority and had to pass what the Senate had already voted on because anything different would be filibustered.

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                17 days ago

                You’re right, and let’s not forget the Franken recount that lasted until June. So a very brief window to get stuff done.

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                  17 days ago

                  They could have completely done away with the filibuster forever with only 50.

                  I will never accept the “we need 60 to get anything done” excuse. It just means “we don’t want to do anything.”

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                    15 days ago

                    I don’t really buy that. Even the Rs haven’t gone that far. Imagine how much worse things could be if they had.

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              18 days ago

              Your article doesn’t back up your ridiculous lie that single payer was the original plan for the ACA.

              Also, gaslighting is abuse, and it’s no surprise that the republican-adjacent wing of the party resorts to it so quickly.

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              18 days ago

              The public option was not single payer. It also was never meant to be in the final bill. It was the bargaining chip they were dangling to negotiate with the republicans. When the republicans showed themselves to be unmoveable, they had to get Lieberman to play the part to get rid of it.