I’m not sorry. Seeing someone who spread so much hate and bigotry and weaponized disinformation get his clock cleaned was absolutely fine by me.

I have empathy for lots of people even if we don’t always agree, but not for people like Charlie Kirk.

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    Charlie Kirk died while doing what he loved:

    Being a horrible horrible person, and a blight on humanity.

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      I have said it before, and I will say it again.

      Empathy is a huge strength, lack of it is a huge weakness.

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      Empathy: a made up word that apparently most people in this thread dont have.

      Seriously, can no one see the irony in hating this sick fuck of a waste of air, and everything he stands for, but then using his views as justification for his death?

      You are mocking him for saying empathy isnt real, which ironically shows an absolute lack of empathy and an admission that you agree with him.

      Just stop and take a breath.

      He was an absolute prick and i am not sad he is gone. But somebody was shot and killed and all you can do is point an laugh.

      How can you stand on any moral high ground when there are any other shootings or murders that you want people to mourn.

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        Empathy does not come without conditions.

        Example, Trump is a vile human being, I feel no empathy towards him.

        I feel empathy towards the people who, as we say in Sweden, bites the sour apple and interacts with him out of necessity while maintaining their professionalism.

        I can even feel empathy toward the first wave MAGA crowd, plenty of them was deceived and fooled into believing their lies, and the weak democrats only acting as a ratchet and not reversing the GOPs decisions when they could have. I feel empathy toward them for having been brainwashed for generations into believing that socialism is bad, that line must go up, but that things can never improve more than marginally.

        The US government has failed is people, I have no empathy toward the people perpetuating the status quo

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          Yeah, sorry i conceeded elsewhere that empathy was not what i meant. I appreciate what you are saying.

          I just have 2 points. 1 is that feeling pleasure in watching someone dying gruesomely is concerning.

          And 2. Applauding and validating this shooting goes both ways. If you don’t oppos3 this then you are opening the doors and saying its ok for anyone to shoot anyone if they have an opinion.

          Kirk may have been a complete fake and just peddling propaganda and nonsense. A vile creature but from the rights point of view, thats what left wing equivalents are doing. From their perspective its ok to retaliate.

          I think it s3ts a dangerous precedent and people should be careful how they go forward with this.

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            It’s perfectly fine, showing empathy towards people who does not, is an increadible strength.

            Depending on the situation, it could even change their views.

            However, someone who tries to argue that empathy is bad, a weakness, does deserve to get a taste of what true lack of empathy is.

            If I saw Trump or Vance alone on in a forest with a broken bone in the middle of winter, would I help? Yes, but i would be a huge dick about it once I realized who they were.

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        It’s REALLY different, when you’re the specific kind of person he spent his life degrading, defaming, and spreading hateful rhetoric about, so that he could harm you. Successfully. They are teaching his garbage in schools. Right now. So that he can train children to hate me. Specifically. My family. My friends and neighbors.

        I’m sorry you don’t get this, but when the racism, the hate, the violence, the laws being passed to try and make life impossible. when they DIRECTLY and explicitly effect YOU. Not “they came for the communists” but for YOU. it’s a very different kind of feeling than when it’s just a group you don’t give a shit about.

        Charlie Kirk didn’t hate you. I can tell. Because if he hated you as much as he hated me. and spend as much time as he did talking about how other people needed to hate you as much as he talked about people needing to hate me, you wouldn’t be saying this stupid ass shit.

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          The OP posted that they enjoyed WATCHING him die. If you saw that video and felt joy, then i think there is something wrong.

          I feel joy that he is deadm that he is gone. He cant keep spreading his shit everywhere.

          I did not enjoy watching him die.

          Where is your humanity if you took pleasure in watching that video.

          2 things can be true. You can be happy he died but not enjoy watching it.

          Thats all i am trying to say.

          I already conceeded the empathy thing.

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            I haven’t watched it and don’t want to watch it either. I don’t need to see someone’s neck explode, no matter whose it is. I feel like if I were to watch it, some deep part of myself would never be the same. I’d forever have watched somebody die. And not “watch somebody die” like when I was 12 and we all watched people jump out of 100+ story windows on every news channel (which was disturbing enough.) I mean “watch somebody die” as in seeing their face as the light leaves their eyes. I don’t want that in my heart forevermore, even if the person who died was the devil incarnate.

            However, I understand why others are watching it with schadenfreude. Humans have been making spectacles of death for quite some time. Public executions used to be community events. It probably feels very cathartic to a lot of people to see someone they consider “evil” be “dealt justice.” This particular death may have been especially relieving, since it was apparently a comedically-timed, over-the-top explosion.

            I don’t personally feel the way others here feel, but I can’t judge them for it either. With how few wins we’ve seen over the past decade, I’m not surprised that this video is as popular as it seems to be.

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        It’s about consistency. This is man who said, in the wake of school shootings, that a few gun deaths every year is a worthy cost for gun rights. This is a man that said empathy was a made up woke term that causes a lot of damage.

        Why should anyone have empathy for him being shot at a school? Not caring about those kinds of victims was his entire platform. This is karma, divine poetic justice, and I’m not going to ignore that. He got precisely what he deserved.

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          Yeah, i guess i was wrong, i guess I’m not talking about empathy. Like morally you are right not not mourn his death, but the prevailing sentiment in the thread is one of taking pleasure in watching that video of him bleeding profusely from the neck.

          Frankly, the idea of that not instantly invoking in you a similar torrent of vomit, is alien to me.

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    “Y’all are all about ‘shoot Nazis, kill Nazis’ until a Nazi dies. Then it’s ‘Oh but that Nazi had a family.’ Fuck off.”

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      I mean, I feel bad for his kids assuming it ever dawns on them that dad was famous for being a lying sack of shit and left this world after being struck with 150 grains of irony (not sure what actual weight of projectile did him in, but old milsurp seems fitting).

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    Well, I don’t wish ill on anybody. But when it does happen to some people, schadenfreude can be enjoyable.

    Rest in piss Charlie.

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      Like someone else said, Kirk getting shot in the throat, in a school, possibly by a republican, while ranting about minorities, gang violence and trans people, is peak irony

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        “Because Charlie Kirk spent so much of his life advocating for gun violence, Kirk’s murder was both tragic and ironic. He was killed by the very thing he loved. It would be like if Donald Trump were child-raped to death.”

        • Steve Hofsetter
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      I wish ill on people who do evil shit. I also wish they’d see the error of their ways and make amends. They don’t tend to though. Watching Charlie get so neatly picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery as he was about to spew more horseshit was highly satisfying.

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    All the pearl clutching from people who openly support a man “Who could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose a single vote.”

    I’d call them hypocrites but they’re too busy praying in public to hear me.

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    My only empathy is for the students at the school who probably thought they were about to be victims as well, thinking maybe they were about to experience a mass shooting. Kirk spewed vile hatred non stop, said that gun deaths were needed for us to have our 2nd amendment right, so he did die from what he preached.

    I feel for the students in Colorado who just hours after did become victim to a school shooting, the Democratic officials in Minnesota who the media have forgotten about after their assassination.

    Does that make me a bad person? I don’t really give a shit. There’s one less toxic commentator/grifter out there saying demeaning shit about minorities and my trans homies, one less voice calling for their deaths. If the left had a version of Kirk that was assassinated, they’d be saying the exact fucking thing.

    I worry about what the repercussions will be for the country.

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      I don’t want anyone watching to have trauma symptoms, sadly they’re going to, but even if they support him I don’t want that for them.

      But watching him about to open his big mouth and say more pro gun shit and then get picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery? 10/10.

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        I dunno, I mean his supporters deserve trauma. Id feel for the Lefty’s that went to just heckle or observe hate. But I’m probably in the top 1% of the darkest (not skin tone) people on the left. Personally I wouldn’t mind being there to witness it, but I’ve seen a lot in Iraq. One shitty guy doesn’t phase me at all, so maybe my opinion on this is a little skewed.

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          I hate seeing a young vulnerable person who has been manipulated into believing weaponized disinformation like from Charlie, who probably with some more time in higher education and living away from their bumfuck home town would acquire a more discerning political outlook,suffer this trauma.

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            It could also be the moment of awakening, too.one thing I can guarantee, is that they’ve been thinking about ethics for the last 33 hrs non-stop.

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      I feel a little bad for his kids, having no dad probably sucks. Well, not nearly as much as having Kirk as a dad, but still. I feel the same way for Barron Trump and Elon’s kids, not much they can do to escape attention and indoctrination. Still doesn’t mean that he was a good man just for having a family, regardless of what CNN and the NYT say.

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      I dont feel bad for them. We have over sheltered the country. We dont want people see videos of what happens. We dont show them the photos. “Its too graphic”. Good. See it. Look at the reality. Maybe if more peoole did that we would have less wars, less rhetoric. Its all a big game because we dont confront peoole with the dark reality.

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    YouTube randomly gave me this:

    Yes, I would like for him to be next if that’s what they’re saying.

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    Right wingers: how can you celebrate a murder?

    Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.

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    People need to stop celebrating the shooter! I’m absolutely disgusted and ashamed by their actions. Charlie Kirk was doing nothing but sitting there giving a speech. This was in the middle of the day, there were clear skys and the sun was shining directly on Charlie, as if he was chosen to deliver an important message. Than the shooter shot him. I’ll say it as it is, nothing was between Charlie and the shooter that warranted this.

    So how could the shooter miss the shot at Charlie Kirk’s large ass head and hit him in neck instead! Embarrassing, do better on the next fascist.

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      I think someone down voted you because they didn’t read the second paragraph. Got you back to positive. 👍🏼

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      I hear reports that estimate the shot at 200 yards. Most rifle scopes come zeroed out at 100 yards out of the box. Maybe the scoped the head but the bullet landed low because the scope was set too close. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      Skulls are thick. A bullet hitting at an angle could potentially ricochet off.

      Ain’t nothing ricocheting off a neck.

      Shooter knew exactly what he was doing.

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    I’m mostly just tired of the same people that might take time off to go piss on Biden’s grave having the gall to demand that we be respectful of this chud.

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      These are people who hung effigies of Obama being lynched outside their homes.

      What’s to feel bad about? He said himself victims of gun violence were acceptable.

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        What’s to feel bad about? Briefly, that people are so fucked up in general. Kirk just happened to be a lot worse than most. But he’s far from alone in his awful beliefs. Look around the Internet and you will see people giddy and you will see people declaring civil war on the left. We’re fucked and that’s nothing to celebrate. I’m glad he’s dead but it’s likely that every day will be worse than the last in America until there’s no America anymore.

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      As not one of those people. I would never expect anyone to show him respect, but to want to watch anyone die for pleasure is insane. Frankly.

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    Him making an incredibly racist statement only for the universe’s immediate rebuttal to be “we’re taking your blood back” was pretty funny.

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    As far as I’m concerned it was the same as watching footage of a Nazi’s neck exploding.

    And I’ll always take joy in that.

    The only good fascist is a dead fascist.