• BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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    If there is a bike lane yea ill ride in it. If no bike lane, and parked cars on either side, then ill be in the middle of the lane. Which is legal in my city at least.

  • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    God forbid bicyclists use the roads they helped pay for.

    Tell you what, drivers — when you pay tolls to cover the complete cost to build and maintain roads, you can exclude whomever you want.

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      If there’s literally a bike lane along the road, there’s no reason to use the road on a bike unless you’re an asshole.

      I do pay the water company, which doesn’t give me the right to throw wet wipes down the toilet.

      I do pay a waste management tax. That doesn’t give me the right to throw dogshit in the paper container.

      We all pay to build bike lanes. Since people using bike lanes helps both cyclists and drivers. Just use the damn bike lane if there is one.

  • TehBamski@lemmy.world
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    Hmmm. I’ll ask.

    What country do you live in?

    As for me, the US isn’t that great when it comes to providing ubiquitous bike lanes throughout the cities (though this is very contingent on what city you’re in, i.e., Portland, Oregon, Boulder, Colorado, or even New York (City), New York). But for the vast majority of cyclists in the US, don’t have anything except the general road or street to travel on.

    But let’s say there were bike lanes. Depending on which country you live in, these would be the laws you would follow. Take a moment and use the webpage search and look up “obligatory” on there.

    Now, let’s say that there are lanes but they are shared with vehicles. Often these are called a, Shared Lane with markings. This design idea is to make it safer for cyclists and vehiclists to know that the road is to be shared and where. Sharing the lane comes into play for various reasons. A common one is when a cyclist has to go around something on the side of the street or road. That could be anything from a delivery truck parked on the side, a car in a pick up area, or just a car parked on the side of the road/street as shown here. There are of course, times when there isn’t a bike lane in certain sections of the street, and thus a lane ends up being needed for more than just one person’s mobility needs. While it’s more common for cyclists to be passing by things on the side of the street, it’s not wrong for them to be in the middle of the road or street if they are planning to turn across the oncoming traffic. The common sense reason for this allowance is that they, just like anyone else, are trying to get somewhere in a reasonable time. And having to always pull off to the crosswalk and wait for it to switch traffic flow and indicate your chance takes a lot of time. Imagine having to cross a street in your vehicle, but every time you have to stop to cross, you have to push your car a bit to get it going. It would get tiring sooner than later, huh? Well, the same feeling is had with cyclists. Hence why they use the turn lanes to get over faster than otherwise.

    But why can’t they just use the sidewalks and crosswalks!? As for the US, it’s a mixed bag of reasons and a lack thereof. You see, this isn’t just a patchwork of laws in the states. This is also happening at the county, city, or town levels of law. You can learn more here.

    Some other things worth mentioning. There are lots of resources that cover bicycle and e-bike laws. Here’s a solid pick. The Center For Cycling Education

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      5 days ago

      U.S. I use to bike but was hit by someone. I just use a stationary bike now. We don’t have bike lanes in my area older area. I never ride in road. I was hit at a stop sign when a car ran it.

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        That’s why the idaho stop is important. But if there are no lanes then that’s probably why people ride in the road… and if you do ride in the road it’s much much more dangerous to bike to the side as people will try and pass you in an unsafe way instead of respecting your bikes legal standing as a vehicle on the road

  • IDraw4u@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    So not only are you such a pussy you can’t deal with bikes existing you also have to cross out the word fucking, but also inadequately?

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    Pfft.

    The law in my area says I need to be about 3’ (~1 meter) of the edge of the roadway, can ride two-abreast, and the edge of the roadway is defined as that white line that separates the road from the shoulder. Cars also need to give me 3’ (~1 meter) of space, and since lanes are 10-12’ wide, and cars are ~6’ wide, that’s not enough room for me and a car to be in the same lane, nor should it be. So me being “in the middle of the road” is just me following the law and encouraging other cars to obey the law to keep me safe. If I stick to the very edge of the roadway, cars will try to pass me, giving them very little space to the next lane over and encouraging them to violate that 3’ of space, increasing my risk of getting hit.

    When I hear of someone getting hit by cars, it’s usually because the car didn’t see them, meaning they were off the roadway (to the right of the white line). That doesn’t mean it’s the cyclist’s fault or anything, but there are usually things the cyclist could have done to be more visible, and the most important of those is to take up more space where drivers are looking.

    When I ride my bike, I either avoid traffic entirely (prefer separated bike paths), or I take as much of the lane as I can. This forces cars to either change lanes to pass me or wait for me to pull over/turn, which I do periodically to allow faster traffic to pass when there’s only a single lane. I get that it can piss off drivers, but I maintain that if they’re honking, they can see me, and that’s more important than saving them 10 seconds on a restricted roadway (which are usually slower speeds anyway, like 25mph/40kph, and I’m usually traveling at 15-20mph anyway).

    Some cyclists overdo it and don’t move over when they’re blocking cars. That’s also legal, but I think also kind of a jerk move. But most of the time I see these complaints are when the cyclist is being considerate and the driver just doesn’t want to wait 10 seconds or whatever.