• Goodeye8@piefed.social
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      5 months ago

      You see, that’s because there are no good kids with guns. It takes only one good kid with a gun to prevent a shooting by no good kid has a gun so no shootings get prevented.

      And because we live in a world where satire has become almost indistinguishable from reality, this is obviously satire.

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      But when someone says the word children what age range do you think?

      The study categorizes them as 1-19 years old. An 18-19 year old can buy a firearm legally on their own, as well as cigarettes(recently changed to 21), cars, an apartment etc.

      I mean come on at the end of that age range they could have joined the military at age 17, did basic training and had two years of active service in.

      Now don’t get me wrong I don’t want kids (or anyone) to get gunned down in schools, malls, or be lost to suicide. But I feel like if you’re going to yell from the hills that guns are THE leading cause of death of children the stats shouldn’t also include those legally seen as military age adults.

      Maybe I’m wrong though, I plan to dig through the sources a bit later

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Isn’t the stat usually about “school-aged children”? So that would include people up to 18, and in some cases 19 years old, no?

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        I looked into this a little bit and you have to remove babies in order for gun violence to be highest. So then gun violence is the highest from 1-17 some years, but other years needs to include 18 or 19 year olds in order to be highest.

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      5 months ago

      Note the subtle bait-and-switch between the post and the study. The post says “firearms violence” but the study says firearms deaths. The post says “among children” but the study says “among children and adolescents” which they choose to include 19-year-olds.

      This study jumped on a particularly unusual year and was very careful to bucket the demographics and causes of death to produce a desired impression that is not consistent with reality.

      • pebbles@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        Nice catch. This was all one big psyop.

        /s

        and was very careful to bucket the demographics and causes of death to produce a desired impression that is not consistent with reality.

        How different from reality? I’m not gonna put a huge difference in effort vs #1 and #2 causes of death. I think car centrism and gun violence are both pretty bad. The study changed my views from not thinking gun violence even on the radar for top causes of death of kids to now seeing it as one of the major causes.

        Also that first paragraph of critique is pretty nitpicky.

        Children -> Children and adolescents

        Deaths by gun violence -> firearm deaths

        This IS subtle lmao. Most people I talk to would not consider those different in casual conversation, and the first part comes from a meme.