If you’re not paying for it, you are the product; except for with 🍏 and then it’s both.
they did pay 1000$+ phones just to have ads on it.
Just like every Android phone that comes pre-loaded with trash apps you have to delete.
Only in the USA, I think. I’m in the UK and don’t have ‘trash apps’.
Unless you mean Facebook and YouTube, thinking about it, which yeah is annoying.
i bought a min OP12R, i had delete a couple apps i dont use on it. A carrier issued phone has even worst bloat. I just disabled most of the google ones, like play, and WALLET because it kept activating tag (fare machine)on public transport, i had to do a work around since there wasnt an easy way to completely eliminate that.
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They didn’t say literally anything about Android or Google…
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Idk what you’re talking about, I program my own OSs in assembly language and solder my own hardware from e-waste. Get gud normie.
Fair enough.
Oh, well, if Google does it then it must be okay.
I thought people liked using Apple products because of the premium experience that ecosystem provides.
They did. Someone at the top has been ruining that experience lately.
I switched from Google to Apple back in 2018 and the royal fucking up lately is making me start looking at how to go back.
I’m really disappointed with the direction and lack of quality from Apple these last few years.
well bad news, Google is going to be going walled garden soon as well, so the only options for apps will be google-approved ones. you can bet those options are going to quickly enshitify once you don’t have a choice in using them.
I’m getting a Linux phone soon so I can get out of this duopoly entirely.
2026 is the year of the Linux phone
More like 2026 + 10, Linux phones are severely lagging behind, enough so that they are at least 10 years away from having enough adoption for banks and the like to recognize their existence, the annoying truth is that it cannot be mainstream until it is able to use these critical apps with no workarounds as “it works but isn’t allowed” will be the death knell of any amount of mainstream appeal.
first of all, you can bank in a browser on a mobile phone just fine. second of all, don’t do your banking on your phone. that is a horrible idea and is one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device.
It’s amazing how Americans love poking their nose into everyone else’s affairs yet can be so oblivious. For some people a phone is literally the only device they have, they can’t do anything else.
one of the reasons mobile phone theft is so lucrative, because people are so obliging to keep their entire financial information downloaded to a single device
[Citation needed]
The most common reason for mobile phone theft is to wipe it and sell it, or just dismantle it for parts.
No common thief is going to be trying to break into an iPhone’s security system to get to someone’s banking data.
How do you deal with 2fa? For capital one in particular, I don’t believe there is an option not to use their app, and the other banks that I use are in the same boat or adamantly recommend to use their app.
I’m this close to getting a fucking TomTom. I need something that can do turn by turn navigation in a car, ideally through Android Auto, but nothing good goes on Android Auto anymore.
How long until we crack this protocol anyway so we can use Linux phones with Android Auto?
Same, I had been on android since the OG Droid and switched around the same time for similar reasons.
If Apple is going to charge premium prices just to splash ads on their products I’m moving on again.
The ads don’t bother me as much as the low QA lately. I upgraded to iOS26 and it’s the buggiest product ever. I have the newest iPhone pro/max and it should be able to handle it fine. Siri never works, apps crash, freeze, the interface is extremely ugly to look at (the liquid crap). Just overall it feels half assed.
Yeah, I have an iPhone 15 Pro and Safari is freezing or just not even allowing me to close windows until I restart the app sometimes. That or websites won’t load and then I restart the app and try again and they load fine.
I haven’t tried turning it off yet, but my suspicion is the Liquid Glass and all the stuff it needs to do is taking priority.
I switched in 2021. I havent noticed any fuckupery. Whats been happening ?
You can name names, it’s Tim Cook, Craig Federighi, Phil Schiller, and Greg Joswiak.
I think it’s more likely just Tim Cook. The buck stops with him. Someone needs to say no to some of this stuff (liquid glass, yearly release schedules, etc.) and that someone should have been him.
I was so hopeful they might just skip one yearly release and focus on bug fixes and technical debt. But then they go and change the name of the version to match the calendar year, and now I’m convinced we’re never going to get a stable iOS again.
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Fuck I just started using it because of how horribly shit google maps has become
If you don’t need traffic data, CoMaps (uses OpenStreet Map data).
If you do need traffic data (understandable) Magic Earth is what I use. It’s unfortunately not fully open source, only the map data is from OSM, but I find the navigation good 95% of the time, sometimes you have to make your own judgement for if a route might have bad traffic. At least it’s not Google or Apple, and no ads.
I don’t do car play, so I have no idea about how that works.
I wish we had better alternatives
or that cars all exploded and we went to public transport and walkable citiesSupposedly comaps has carplay support as of like 2 months ago, according to a page on their website
Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll look into it
I know this is my own personal experience, but diehard Apple fans in my circle have started to say, “Fuck Apple.” I think they’re PR and goodwill is finally running out.
The thing is, Apple getting worse is coinciding with everything else getting worse, too.
for real, fucking everything sucks now.
Steve Jobs, for all his other problems, knew how to run a company and held to the idea that they needed to make good products. He kept the prices fairly low for what they were, and they even decreased over time for many of their products. He wouldn’t allow unfinished products to be released which is a big reason why I always laughed at Android people who claimed “first” with their buggy, shitty versions of the reliable thing Apple made a couple years later.
But then for some reason he let Tim Cook, who had been an idiot at Apple for a long time and Job’s knew it, take over. Since then prices have sky-rocketed and the company has started releasing stuff that just isn’t up to the standards they held in the past. He even took power away from the guy who had come up with Apple’s iconic aesthetic.
Whether or not people want to admit, Apple made excellent products and the customers aren’t nearly as stupid as people want to believe. So when shit like this happens we understandably get pissed because, surprise, many of us actually have been paying attention.
I have a lot of shot to say about Steve Jobs, but he knew what asthetics he wanted. He would loathe the current trend with phones having a camera bulge. Look at all the iPhones released under him, look at the back of them. If they had a camera it was flush with the back of the phone.
sure, but do you think Jobs be okay with a severely underpowered camera or super thick phone compared to the competition? Neither of those things happened under him either.
It’s not that simple to blame Cook for everything that’s different about iphones now. It was a lot easier to stick to rigid principles in the early days when the market was wide open and the tech rapidly maturing every year. They were making money hand over fist just picking off the low hanging fruit of smartphone evolution. They ran out of obvious upgrades pretty much when Cook took over and have shareholders to answer to. Hence more expensive phones, subscription services, and ads.
severely underpowered camera
Bruh, the first iPhone didn’t have a camera
“What the fuck you gonna do? Use Android?!??! Fuck you and and be happy about it” - Tim Apple, probably
Sundar Pichai: “Huh, well I guess we’ll just follow Tim Apple’s lead and start injecting ads in google maps and anyone who uses google maps API too.”
There are already ads in Google Maps, there is nothing for them to follow.
Doesn’t Google Maps have ads?
Kind of.
They’re not in your face. But they make sure their sponsors show up on the maps with custom pins
I don’t know. Probably.
The answer you’re looking for is, “Of course it does!”
OpenStreetMap for the win, my peoples.
Everything is shitty! 🎶
OrganicMaps isn’t.
So much for the “Apple is all about privacy whereas Google monetizes you” schtick.
Organic Maps or OsmAnd is out there, just saying.
Wanting to mention CoMaps and that it was forked from Organic Maps.
The projects aren’t very diverged yet so you can still migrate your pins with an easy export/import
Organic Maps is so fucking good, I keep so much of it downloaded as a backup for when I’m offline, because it just works. That said, I still use Google maps due to the reviews of businesses and traffic data when navigating normally, but it’s good to know a great alternative is out there.
You might want to switch to CoMaps. Most developers fled there after the owners of Organic Maps showed shady behaviour regarding donations and the future of the project
I’ll check it out. Any links to articles on the shady behavior?
Edit: CoMaps is like Organic Maps but better, regardless of the development practices, neato.
This is a good place to start reading :)
Wow, interesting stuff. Huge thanks for the tip off about CoMaps.
Are they CarPlay enabled?
Yes Organic Maps and CoMaps (its open community fork) both support Car Play
OsmAnd does have a CarPlay option. Dunno about Organic Maps and its forks.
I’m reportedly getting ready to move to CoMaps.
I just need to contribute to a few more towns in Openstreetmap and Apple Maps is gone from my phone.
Between this and android phones with ads on lockscreens, I’m ready for someone to finally release a good Linux phone.
It seems to me that advertising is the real secret cabal that is running the world.
“Secret cabal” as in capitalism and its imperatives sure, pretty out in the open though.
Me: “What the fuck? I didnt tell it to take me to Starbucks.”
Siri: TRY STARBUCKS NEW PUMPKIN SPICE LATTE NOW AVAILABLE FOR A LIMITED TIME
stupid because people literally pay alot of money for Apple tech,but maybe greed got into them.
