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- privacy@lemmy.ml
- privacy@programming.dev
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
- privacy@programming.dev
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52834195
“If adopted, these amendments would not simplify compliance but hollow out the GDPR’s and ePrivacy’s core guarantees: purpose limitation, accountability, and independent oversight,” Itxaso Dominguez de Olazabal, from the European Digital Rights group, told EUobserver.
The draft includes adjustments to what is considered “personal data,” a key component of the GDPR and protected by Article 8 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.
Compliance does need to be considered. The company I work for is trying extremely hard to comply, but because of complexities and ambiguities in the law, it is difficult to find out how to comply. I don’t know all the details, but I know legal, compliance, and the data engineering teams spend a lot of time figuring out how to be compliant and there aren’t always clear answers.
That said, the solution is not to roll back protections but to be very explicit about how to comply.
I want to know who is behind these changes being proposed. This smells of corruption.
The commission pitched the Digital Omnibus as simplifying and streamlining digital regulations to relieve the regulatory burden for digital services and AI systems, with a specific focus on helping small-to medium-sized businesses in Europe; however, the draft proposal goes further than expected.
won’t somebody think of the poor “AI” companies? 😢
Helping small to medium-sized businesses in Europe
Yyeeaa as if these small companies are the ones that yelled in favor of this. The lady at my local grocery shop always told me how it would be easier for her to do her job if this change in GDPR made it through…
well yeah in my personal environment, the people i talk to IRL, lots of people complain about the supposedly overly-strict GDPR rules and about the fact that it makes management quite a bit more challenging, because they have to be careful about what information to put/share where. Like, even if you make a public google sheets document as a calendar for a small company/school where a group of people can enter their email addresses, that’s already a GDPR violation, because personal data becomes accessible by other people. As a result, you theoretically would need very elaborate custom-forms, where only you can enter information but nobody else can see it. It’s a hell of a lot of work, IMHO. So yeah, people have semi-meaningfully complained about it.
Yeah, that’s not it.
There’s this thing known as consent and purpose. For a GDPR violation, you need to lack either.
When your job has a noticeboard of names, emails and birthdays, they probably got your consent to post it up there. They didn’t get consent to post it onto Facebook.
Yeah, sharing a photo can be a GDPR violation. Because you need to prevent unneccessary processing of data. Like what Facebook does. That’s why most places require you to sign a waiver to allow photos and similar stuff being posted online.
It can be a lot of work. But so is writing a contract. You can’t just do some stuff willy-nilly, and for a good reason.
That being said, the GDPR is mostly unenforced. What it means in practice is “don’t ask, don’t tell”. Meaning, if you keep the info you do have under wraps, you should be fine. Just don’t go whoring your customers’/employees’ info out to your 18 356 “data partners”. Bonus points for having an “Accept All” and “More Options” button, but no “Reject All”.
1st prize for those whose “Reject All” doesn’t encompass “legitimate interest”.
You really hit the main points of our gdpr training. You’re right.
What. Google forms exist. It’s really not that difficult. And also, you can just have them agree to share their emails with each other??
My grandpappy started this here AI company with a handful of GPUs he whittled himself, and I’ll be damned if I’m gonna let big gobmint regulations cost us the family business!
I think the point is that the EU isn’t participating in the software industry, including AI, at all.
Well shit, do we EU citizens have any say in this ?
Contact your local MEP. Ask your local MP or Deputy or whatever you call them to push the relevant minister to oppose it. It’s not great, but you do have a say.
lol sure
Every goddamn day there’s some new BS showing up.
more like: every goddamn day the newspapers only report about the bad things that happen, because good things make no money.
Here’s the un-paywalled link: https://archive.is/je5sj
Make those motherfuckers’ phone lines burn!
oh yeah i’ve heard about it.
basically, people got pissed with cookie banners so much that they complained to the EU government about it.
the EU government said “well, if people don’t like the choice to allow or deny cookies, i guess we’ll un-do these regulations”.
I think this is a very good example how people are always complaining, no matter what the government does.
If the government makes a law, a group of people complain. If the government later removes that same law that people kept whining about, another group of people complains. What to do?
Btw, another nice example is worldwide free trade. When it was introduced starting in the 1970s, people were very loud about the fact that they didn’t like it because they feared competition from foreign markets, companies moving abroad (offshoring), and jobs at home being lost. That is largely exactly what happened (though free trade also had many positive sides like exchange of technology and culture). 50 years later, world governments (especially in the west) want to un-do free trade, and people complain again about it, citing a loss of free exchange of ideas as a reason. What to do.
It’s different groups of people with different interests.
Also doesn’t help that the cookie banners were a kind of malicious compliance. They were made deliberately difficult to navigate around when you didn’t immediate hit “accept everything unequivocally”.
That the response to this malicious compliance is a retreat rather than a doubling down suggests the EU regulators are compromised by the industry and this isn’t a popular reform in any meaningful sense.
Yeah; the response should be that a “reject all” button must be displayed next to the accept all button with equal prominence, and define prominence to mean the same size, with similar contrast to the accept all button and clearly labelled.
I think a better way might be that browsers can auto-decline all cookies.
Why would the user have to click on each cookie banner separately?
Yeah; the response should be that a “reject all” button must be displayed next to the accept all button with equal prominence
I’ll do you one better. “Websites should default to the minimal cookies option, with settings confined to a website option menu that does not occlude the entrance page.”
what this is not a always complain situation. These banners are designed to annoy you. A competent non corrupt goverments respond would be to make rules so the design would not suck, and not remove them. But these ghouls dont work for the people anymore.
People complain because the law was poorly written, not because it is a bad idea.
Oh no
Fascists in council. Only one way to deal with those…
What about this is fascism?
Anything you don’t like can be called that.
Political views are reactionary: if they’re against you, then naturally and by no real choice of your own, you’re against them.
So if anyone goes against you for your political views, they’ve made that decision long before you even knew they were against you.
Just when it became technically feasible to autodecline in all kinds of cookie banners with AI enabled browsers/browser plug-ins…
Omfg, is there anything that we can do?
Vote wisely.
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No no just kidding whatever your vote is it doesn’t matter in the end
This message brought to you by anti-democracy coalition. “Anti-democracy coalition - whatever you do just please don’t participate in democracy”
As much as all of us may hate it - it’s true. The only scenario in which democracy functions is one where all, or at the very least the majority of voters make their own decisions, based on objective information. This is not the case.
While it’s always great to contribute, no matter how little, we cannot deny reality here. Your vote is welcome and appreciated, but the truth is it won’t change anything. Voting only gets you so far when the vast majority of people are brainwashed and just pick whatever their media outlet of ‘choice’ tells them to pick.
You don’t know how the European Union is run. This not even a representative regime
This bullshit needs to stop. Grow the fuck up
Ah yes, just keep voting, it will work this time, I swear!
Or take a page from the yellow vests, make them piss themelves.
Yeah, not voting works super great to keep the fascists out of power, just ask the Americans!
One without the other is never enough
Or you know, in case I have to spell it out.
Just straight up tear up the government, no voting necessary.
Guess I’ll kms lol
Such a shame. 😕
This is what happens when you act for no reason like you’re better than the US.
First they laughed at Russians
Then they laughed at Chinese
Now they laugh at Americans and Brits
Who’s gonna laugh the last?
No system is good enough to prevent abuse and dismantling of democracy. Europeans already lose footing and need radical action to stop repeating same mistakes. Authoritarians are already knocking on the doors, and they will not be quiet.
Be quiet, the grown-ups are talking.
Hubris is a hell of a drug














