I choose a distro based on the name and logo. If the distro doesn’t feel cool anymore, I switch.
This is why I never used Ubuntu.
UwUntu is the correct one, surely
And Fedora? I can’t look anyone in the eye and tell them thats my operating system.
I call that the IPA method
I tried running Bazzite for a few months, but just kept running into one weird issue after another. Went to Endeavor and they all went away overnight.
I’m technical enough that I can configure Arch from scratch, but simply can’t be bothered. I just need my computer to work. Every day.
I felt like when I was working with Arch, and I’m sure it’s operator error, it was like maintaining a starship with a dozen systems that could individually go wrong and I was responsible for all of them. Endeavor was fully setup with no weirdness in less than 30 minutes.
Had the opposite experience, tried Endevour first, must have done something wrong as it started running like ass/freezing up constantly requiring a full reboot to come back.
Swapped to bazzite and didn’t have that issue again, I did get to learn more about how to work with mutable distros too.
Ultimately didn’t matter much as that laptop died about a year later anyway, it won’t turn on at all anymore, good run of like 10 years tho.
Someone could write a book…
The Joys of Distro-Hopping
These odd freezes, especially when moving files at scale, is something I struggled with on all Arch-based distros I had installed: Arch itself, EndeavourOS, Manjaro.
Either Arch doesn’t like my hardware in some way, or it’s just something Arch users struggle with.
Any other distros worked just fine in that regard.
bazzite isnt in this meme?
The post I’m replying to mentions their experience with Bazzite lol
sorry, i had just woken up
Same experience with bazzite.I had a very strange issue with packages completly gone after using LACT to experiment and managing to freeze my os.
TBH I realised immutable systems aren’t for me and I am not a linux noob, so I immediately went back to Arch and never looked back.
archinstall is amazing btw. Best installer by far IMHO. shit free, takes 30s to setup an arch system with great defaults. Nothing beats it for me.
Edit: for me someone using “I use void btw” would make more sense.
I had cachyos for 6 months no issues than the last 6 months it’s been freezing constantly, was fine on an older kernel, but fans and performance mode didnt work, stuck on high or low (could swap on latest rc kernel, but itd freeze) Tried bazzite and so far no freezes (except when using usb c to display port but I had bsod on windows doing that in vr and I think thats just a laptop hardware problem)
Garuda is an Arch based non immutable distro with a similar gaming and performance focus to Bazzite. It’s where I went when Bazzite felt off to me.
For anyone thinking of a switch, it’s worth a look.
Arch can be configured without archinstall in 20 minutes by a YouTube video even if you’re a grandma with 0 technical skills.
Let’s all stop pretending that having it manually installed means anything and just use whatever does it for us. Like, well, Endeavour.
You… heavily overestimate a grandma with 0 technical skills.
It can be installed in 20 minutes with a youtube video by a person with 0 technical knowledge that is comfortable using a computer and doesn’t get scared seeing a terminal.
Fair enough. Honestly, fear is the main barrier
If you can open a YouTube video, open a terminal and not scream in horror, you fill all the prerequisites.
It’s not the installation I fail on. It’s that 3-4 months after installation, my installation is so bespoke that I don’t even know how to make a forum post on it anymore.
I did mention I can install it by hand, but I hardly gain any benefit by doing so other than clout. And I don’t give a hoot about clout.
That’s one of my gripes with Arch, too. It takes too much manual interaction on an everyday basis, it’s not a “set it and forget it” kind of system.
To some, sometimes lesser, extent it also translates to its derivatives, be it Endeavour, Garuda, Manjaro or whatever strikes one’s fancy.
Linux users when you use Windows: 😡
Linux users when you use Linux: 😡
😡
🔴
Just use Arch like a normal well adjusted person
Stimulate your Autism and use Gentoo it’s quite fun.
Weirdly enough, I never tried Gentoo. What it will do to my autism that Arch doesn’t do already?
Me when you use Windows: :|
Me when you use Linux: :DDIt’s sad that there is a very vocal group of Linux users that will complain about every choice other Linux users make. But it’s silly to be complaining about it, especially as that complaining keeps detracting people away from Linux. And I think there’s lots of value in bringing people to Linux. In a time where Microsoft is turning a fairly useful OS into a platform whose only purpose is invasive telemetry and invasive marketing, Linux is a way to take back control of our computers. Linux gives you back more choice on what to do with your computer. And just because I don’t personally agree with certain choices, that doesn’t mean that everyone should be prohibited from making them, or that I get to scream with whoever makes those choices. Here’s a final suggestion: be kind with one another, as there is already enough hatred in this world.
Same but cachyos
and garuda! love garuda
love garuda
An equivalent of Rani should legally mandated to be on all Arch-based distros.
wait, that’s not a standard?
I do not get why people on distros like Endevour or Cachy say that they use arch. It makes me cringe everytime. Be proud of your distro, they are all good.
Endeavour is Arch. It uses the Arch repos.
If it isn’t Arch, then those automated Windows 11 installers with pre-configurations used by enterprises aren’t Windows. Of course they are.
Linux isnt windows so I reject that comparison. But by your logic anything running nix is nixOS or anything using debian is debian. Plenty of distros share repos, kernels, software but they are still independent distros.
By your logic every Android phone has Samsung os, LG os, pixel os and not android.
Yes my phone does run samsungOS but it also runs the android kernel. We generalize when we say “android” the same as we generalize when we call all linux distros “linux”
wat.
Did you misread? Or have a brain fart to misstep logic like that?
Also,
Plenty of distros share repos, kernels, software but they are still independent distros.
You must be using “independent distros” in a very different way from the conventional understanding of these words.
Yes I am using it differently than the distrowatch websites search filter. And I would not call distrowatches search filter a conventional understanding of the word.
Im not saying independent as in they do everything themself from scratch im saying it as in they are self governing.
Is ‘I run arch’ your entire personality…?
No I dont use arch and I’ve never claimed I use arch. I just point out that if you dont use arch its cringe to tell people you run arch. Thats just common sense I thought but there are many non arch users that are feeling attacked by me pointing that out.
I use Arch BTW (cachyos)
Yeah, I use Endeavour and I would never say I use Arch. I’ve never installed Arch. That’s like the whole thing about it.
Even that has been massively simplified, no?
Yup
archinstallis damn near perfect for everything except corner cases as far as most end users are concerned. Installing Arch manually is just wasting your time these days.Oh, I installed Arch manually the other day and rather enjoyed the process :'( felt good to be reminded of all the bits and bobs.
TBF I have been accused of being a time-waster on occasion
I confess I have sometimes said I used Gentoo since 2007, when really, that was Sabayon, and not Gentoo until 2010.
This was indeed technically wrong, or at the very least, misleading. Merely a choice of expedient shorthand, to avoid my usual verbose precision.
Does anyone really care though?
It does get me wondering how many “I use arch btw” are not really, and boasting a nothing burger from even less. XD
Cause it’s funny to say arch btw
Its only funny if you’re actually an arch user tho.
for me at least, endevour and cachy dont rlly have an identity, they feel like Arch but easier to install with very little difference in actual use
They do. They have their own identity, community and user culture. Go make a post on the arch fourms, endevour fourms and cachy fourms and it will be 3 different experiences because they cater to different niches of people. Majority of Arch users will never get their system as optimized as cachy.
There is little different in actual use between all linux distros. They all feel mostly the same but the differences are there and they are what makes linux cool.
To each their own. I love plain 'ol vanilla Arch.
Today’s arch experience : upgraded after 6 months or so. Yeah, had to upgrade signatures first, had to remove manually conflicted stuff, and that’s it. Works, as ever.
Now yesterday I tried installing stremio on my wife’s ubuntu. Gosh wtf, how do they expect any normal consumer going through gît and stack’ just to install that piece of crap.
EndeavourOS is my favorite of most everything so far, and I started back during the Slackware days.
Yes, but CachyOS for me.
So far only one update broke my entire system but luckily snapper was configured in the installation process so i just rolled back and updated 4 days later.
I like endeavorOS, it’s the main distro I use on my pcs. I’ve run arch before (with i3wm and switchable Nvidia graphics) and did for years, but honestly I don’t really have the time to properly configure my systems to my liking, so the option to install the sway community edition and just tweak a few settings in the config files is very nice.
ZFS - Snapshotting with cachyos is like a magic shield.
Interesting. I’ve only used zfs for my nas. Do you run it on a single drive?
I used eos as my main distro before switching to kubuntu and then to cachyos. One of best arch Linux forks. It is just like arch Linux + archinstall but is actually better than it.
I installed Artix yesterday.
Absent-mindedly.
Meant to install AntiX.
Didn’t realise until done.
XD
A silly grep for “tix” (not “tiX”) in iso dir, saw the various inits, + dyslexia + haste, went with it thinking I had the right ones to dd to usb. So absent minded all the artix logos in my face didn’t phase me through booting and installing. XD
Doesn’t really matter. Installed AntiX straight after. Hijacked with bedrocklinux and installing the other to another stratum too anyway. I just wanted antiX for hijack default init stratum from the start, for a more stable (slower-upgrading) base.
Fun that two distros offering init freedom are so similarly named. Just one letter and one capitalisation different. r > n & x > X.
Well. That was fun. LOL.
Can you choose your init in Arch or EndeavourOS yet?
i love both, can anyone explain this meme to me?
