What’s your take on this?
My take is that you keep posting hot takes on here, trying to stir the pot, and then when called out you say it’s just a joke bro
Hot takes? If OP wanted to try a hot take, they could try something not from the 2001 MRA handbook.
I mean, it’s the mgtow instance…
I’m in serious mode right now.
That’s not equal. Women can’t abandon the baby after it’s born either. It takes two to make a baby. Men have the final say over their own bodies just as women do.
I mean for the same period of time abortion is allowed.
That doesn’t change anything. If the child is born, it’s yours, and you can’t abandon it. The child has a right to a parent, and you are the parent.
Most (all?) states have safe haven places where you absolutely can abandon your baby no questions asked
actually, a child doesn’t have a legal right to a parent. for example, my birth certificate doesn’t list a father. legally, I never had one. of course, practically speaking, I also didn’t have one.
While it sounds good that simply pushes the cost of the child, if the mother can’t afford it alone, to you and me. Let’s teach daddy that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and keep him on the hook.
Comparing undesired paternity to undesired pregnancy is TIGHT.
This made sense to me with I first heard it and I thought some feminists agreed with it too. The Wikipedia article on it has some women cited as supporting the idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_abortion
Both absolutely should be allowed/legalized.
I support the woman’s choice to have a child or not, without government interference either way (eg: Forced Abortions or Forced Births).
I also support paper abortions.
You’re gonna be down voted to hell but baby trapping is real, it’s rape, and there should be a recourse against it.
Lol. Baby trapping, while it is bad, its nothing even closely similar to rape.
Also gentlemen, if there is possibility of rain, bring your raincoats and remember, its not rude to keep your hat on when going inside. Even if the lady asks you to remove it.
But i agree that lying about birthcontrol should be punishable.
If stealthing is rape (which it is), then so is this. Consent was not given for unprotected sex.
you’re right. trapping a man into providing for a woman and her child for life is nothing like rape.
I mean rape is a singular incident that causes lifelong repercussions that takes years if not a lifetime to manage. it can financially ruin you. it can steal away your freedom of choice and destroy opportunities you otherwise could have taken.
🤔 that sounds awfully similar now that I’m thinking about it.
just FYI, condoms break.
It could be like some kind of psychological rape if you think about it.
Do you feel clever using words to compare physical abuse and taking away other person bodys sovereignty to financially harming other?
Both are bad and cruel things, but they are not compearable.
Condoms can break and parachutes can fail, but jumping from the plane without parachute is just moronic.
Not being clever. it’s the same thing.
you’re just victim blaming because you refuse to acknowledge that forcing anyone to do something through sex should be considered rape.
Did you learn fancy new word to use?
Im not victim blaming anybody, nor am i saying baby trapping is in any way acceptable, but it definedly is not a rape. And those two crimes are definedly not in any way compareable.
Your definition would also turn custody disputes in to rape cases.
that’s quite the amount of confidence for being wrong.
Many jurisdictions now center the crime on the absence of freely given or affirmative consent and also criminalize sexual acts with persons who cannot legally consent—minors (statutory rape), the intoxicated, the unconscious, or those with certain mental disabilities—so the presence or absence of capacity is often as central as whether force was used.
by your definition, having sex while intoxicated would not be rape because consent isn’t required. you allowed this by proposing consent is not a requirement to force a man to impregnate a woman.
by your definition rape itself doesn’t exist.
Haha. You are really a grade A mental gymnist. Bravo. Here have a star *. You deserve it.
I havent said single time anything about how i might or might not define a rape. You on the other hand wanted to broaden the definiton to include baby trapping, a completelly different offence that should be its own thing.
Look, mate, accidents happen. If you don’t want to get a lady pregnant, don’t have sex with the lady.
what an absolute brain dead response.
people can lie. “I’m on the pill” “I can’t get pregnant” “I’ll take plan B”
condoms can break even when a needle hasn’t been poked through.
a woman can still force herself on a man, they aren’t powerless.
Victim blaming.
Are you having a stroke? If so, call emergency services. If not, do some research on sentence structure.
I mean, I understood what they meant. And I’m pretty sure that’s a common way to speak, even though it’s highly informal in writing.
I think it should require some proof that there was mutual intent to prevent or end a pregnancy, but otherwise it seems reasonable.
Where I am abortion is illegal but I believe where it is legalized it is that way, I mean I don’t believe it is legal to abort with the father being against it.
My point is supposing it gets legalized it should be both ways, or not?
Hey look, there’s a MGTOW instance. And now it’s blocked.
Yeah I think we should bring back exposure honestly.
There’s a reason why women hate you:
Because you deserve it.
