You guys get ads ?
to the people who read stuff on /c/technology, likely not.
No, why would we? Americans maybe? They love ads, apparently…
American here, I hate ads and haven’t seen any on YouTube for years. Well, other than movie trailers and stuff I chose to watch intentionally.
Same here. It’s jarring to use someone else’s device. AdGuard does a great job on my phone.
You guys get ads ?
you guys go to YT ? I wonder how and why it’s still out there. They make it so obvious they don’t want people to watch video’s there
Only for a short break, usually with freetube, newpipe for clips, metrolist, harmony for music. Now I get my info from fedivers and RSS feeds
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I was part of a really annoying one recently that targeted vpn use but it seems to have stopped
laughs in uBlock Origin
On your TV?
I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’m running SmartTube on an Nvidia Shield here. Works amazing.
It astonishes me that the shield is still the best of the streaming boxes after all these years.
its still very capable, but best depends. iirc there are certain audio formats the shield doesnt support.
i personally would love a new shield using ~switch 2 soc just so i can move emulation/lower end pc onto it.
What format does the shield not support that other boxes do support?
I went to go look it up for my old setup, turns out its mainly for the older models, as the codecs are only supported on the newer revisions of the shield tv.
though with the shield tv, one of the missing things that would be nice to have would be AV1 support (as Nvidia only supported AV1 starting with Ampere based gpus)
It’s so versatile. One of the last great products Nvidia came up with before shooting up AI crack.
I mean there are ways, like pihole, but I like the simple option of a really long hdmi cable that I use to plug my computer into the TV, so I never have to use any of the shitty built in TV apps.
Edit: not pihole, apparently.
pihole hasn’t worked for years to block youtube ads, no?
Honestly, I’ve not used it, I just know of it. From a quick search it looks like you’re right tho, you’d probably need to use an external device like an android box or something.
What, it works for me? Put on an 8 hour video while doing chores and had ads every 5 minutes. Filled with rage I installed pihole and no more ads.
I’m curious how. Maybe a different region? I don’t have Pihole anymore but it didn’t use to do anything for me for YouTube. Luckily we have uBlock.
Maybe? My region is Sweden. I really haven’t had any ads on YouTube since installing pihole. “Works on my machine”
I would love to run a long hdmi cable from my pc to my tv, but I have rabbits and they like the spicy hay
Oh no, I feel that, we had an orange kitty who adored his electric spaghetti! We had to run cables through that tube conduit stuff everywhere >.<
Oh the orange ones are the most fun. I had a couple oranges as a kid and they were so sweet and so dumb. I loved them lol
Look for an armored HDMI cable. They are wrapped in a steel jacket. Conduit is also an option.
Conduit is probably the best option, I just haven’t done anything with it yet. And I might have to convince partner to cut some holes in the wall to make that work. I’ll eventually figure it out.
Yeah I unsmarted my TV and just threw Mint on an old laptop. FreeTube works great on there.
I have this thing called a DisplayPort cable. So yes, uBlock origin on my TV.
Edit: I’m realizing this might be coming across really shitty, but i promise I’m just intending some tongue-in-cheek dry joking.
Smart tube is GOATED.
I have a script that takes a YT URL on my clipboard and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin folder so I can watch on my Apple TV on The Big Telly.
Fuck adverts.
If you’ve got a VPN, just install that on your Apple TV. Google doesn’t show ads in certain countries (the list is Googleable). That was an absolute game changer for me.
I haven’t tried it personally, but have heard good things:
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I use an Apple TV, but I assume it’s the same as any other streaming box or appropriate smart TV.
The absolute piece-of-piss way to block all YouTube ads on it is to install a VPN like Proton, choose a relevant country (easily googleable), and there will be no ads whatsoever in YouTube.
Google doesn’t serve ads on YouTube in a handful of countries.
Probably a fair percentage of users block þeir smart TVs from connecting to þe internet.
/me chuckles in umatrix
Actually, YouTube is cracking down on adblockers.
So while you might not feel the pain now, you will eventually.
They’ve been “cracking down on adblockers” for over a decade
“They” have also been trying to prevent consumers/us from taking ownership of our devices and data for the last 2-decades.
… and, ya know what? It’s working.
Nah, if Youtube blocks adblockers then I’ll just waste my time elsewhere.
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real maybe I’ll actually go through the mountains of DVDs and blu rays in our apartment
There’s always a workaround…
Firefox + uBlock Origin has worked well for years.
++ SponsorBlock and you got chef’s kiss
+1 combo. privacy badger, ublock origin and umatrix for fine tuning. also a youtube specific addon. seems okay
What’s a YouTube specific add on?
Are these from reliable sources? I’m always hesitant with extensions as they are given a lot of access and often seem to be from shady sources.
then theres this yt related thing. don’t think it does much
Because they don’t put the effort in.
Add a simple “the video isn’t served until the ad’s length has elapsed” and suddenly your only workaround is to spend 30s staring at a black screen.
Better than ads
Deal.
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Txt file with favorite channels as input for a yt-dlp download script schedule. Combined with a selfhosted invidious and freetube desktop app for other then favorite videos.
Honestly I am really tired of jumping trough hoops, have to make sure yt-dlp and invidious use a proxy (cloudflare warp) or google will ban your ip for being a bot.
But having to deal with the actual YouTube site or reopening my google account is worse. Its not even (but still also) the ads at this point but pure resentment against big tech.
You got that script handy?
I wont be home till quite a few hours.
But also its general boilerplate enough an ai can help you get you one according to your own preferences.
There are also a number of examples online.
This one looks pretty interesting https://github.com/panchi64/auto-ytdlp
Why not run tubearchivist or something?
First I hear of if but a quick scroll shows it mostly to organize an existing collection so you would still need to download.
I put them straight into jellyfin which works fine for me.
The day I have to watch ads is the same day I stop youtube. So far ad blocks seem to work well for now and I’m more than willing to spend hours getting them working if needed.
Cracking down just means I don’t watch the content, still not getting ads.
I feel the pain anytime I look at a video outside of my browser. So if it becomes where I can’t find a workaround, then I’ll just have to go elsewhere. And there will be other places. There are other places, it’s just hard to get people to not go to or be on the big one. Push people hard enough, they’ll leave.
When it reaches that point I’ll stop watching YouTube. I will never feel the pain they inflict.
The moment I’m unable to watch YouTube ad-free is the moment I never watch YouTube again.
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If they just made the ads unintrusive people wouldn’t bother installing adblockers. But sure make the ads longer and see what happens.
Also changed how ads are served so they wouldn’t be a known security issue. Intrusive or not I will block all of them until security improves.
I have said it before, and I’ll say it again.
As an IT guy I consider an adblocker an essential part of my computer security suite.
I will not reconsider until there are laws in place forcing website owners to take legal and financial responsibility for any damage sustained to my computer when visiting their site, and loading their ads.
IF the laws are changed like that, I would reconsider getting rid of my adblocker, ai still wouldn’t but I would reconsider the issue.
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It’s like you don’t care about stonks and shareholder value.
I care about those things.
I want them to go down faster >:)
Exactly, people used to love ads. They would sit down and watch hour long compilation videos of the funniest and weirdest ones. People would get hyped for shit like Old Spice and Skittles and never skip it. Even the Superbowl was less entertaining than the ads it had and that was a mainstream opinion.
It’s the exact same as the boomers who keep crowing “Why doesn’t anyone wanna work?!” but now it’s “Why doesn’t anyone want ads?!” lmao
If they made ads unobtrusive they wouldn’t be able to charge as much for them.
Wrong. Still would.
Nah, take a look at the stats of the number of people who tried out an adblocker for the first time when Youtube attempted to ban them several months back. Streisand Effect in action.
Most people still would.
I personally wouldn’t, that’s why I use Adblock Plus. But there’s a reason everyone started hating on ABP when it started allowing non-intrusive ads by default. Most people do not want to see ads at all, no matter what.
Time to double down on the adblocks, then. I get it conceptually, but I still don’t understand this need for infinite growth at everyone’s expense.
Right? If I don’t otherwise pay for the service then sure, some ads are fine. Problem is that at this point I’m seeing ads every few minutes, and if the video restarts in a weird spot and reloads funny after I reopen my laptop I might even get the same ads looping after literally two seconds of video.
Also, I was paying for the service and then they gave a fuckload of support to Israel to spread propaganda so I stopped.
Remember when Google was “not evil”? :(
Do the right thing!
But like all corporations once that IPO went through they abandoned any semblance of morality at the alter of obscene profit.
Thanks, Google. I was trying to cut down my usage of YouTube.
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
Peertube, but lacks content.
If that’s the only issue, then it’s good enough.
It’s what Lemmy was when I started up after reddit killed their 3rd party apps. Like a year later Lemmy exploded
Peertube it is, then.
When I checked the Fedi alternatives were far-right hangouts. Part of that unfortunate “free speech absolutist” == “asshole” phase.
It’s not Fediverse but I like Nebula. It’s more like a co-op so I don’t mind paying for it at all.
Not fediverse, but Nebula is good
Invidious if you don’t wanna install a bunch of software
I mean alternative platforms, not alternative ways to use YouTube (although this looks useful in the meantime, so thanks anyway)
Nebula sound promising.
I like nebula but it is pretty limited. Its mostly educational and essay type stuff. For the price it is amazing and the only streaming platform i have anymore. But i dont know if id call it a youtube alt unless you only watch that type of video. They have a handful of other things too but the variety just isnt there yet. The other thing i both like and dislike is the lack of comments.
I do recommend it though. Crazy affordable, owned by the creators, ad free. Just kind of niche still
I don’t think it’s fedi but I like odysee
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
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WATCH THE ADS OR IT’S PIRACY!
yt pops up that ‘slowdowns? read more…’ nag while i’m not watching the ad. make me feel special
The slowdown is becsuse the adblocker had to take an additional 0.002 seconds to block the ads.
seems to pause for 5-10 seconds, while the ad plays out of sight. i can wait
What are ‘ads’? 🤷🏼
I dunno. Some strange relic from the 1980s?
Kidding aside, it’s shocking how bad raw YT is. We watch it via Smartube (or PipePipe as needed). I can’t believe people watch “raw” youtube…it’s unwatchable.
If they ever quash SmartTube and PipePipe…well…I imagine Peertube, Nebula, Libby and Curiosity stream will suddenly become a great deal more popular.
I don’t think the powers that be fully grasp the (very delicate) knife edge they walk. They only stay in business so long as they aren’t annoying enough to be replaced. Actually, who am I kidding - they know that exactly and play the delicate “gently gently” boil frogs in a pot game like grandmasters.
The ads seem to be pretty variable depending on usage so I suspect not everyone is seeing the same thing. I rarely use YouTube in any form. When I do and I’m rawdogging it for whatever reason, it seems like I get a few short ads, like 30s or less. They’re annoying but not awful.
A friend keeps YouTube running constantly on his TV in the background while he works. He gets so many ads and they’re so long! Like several minutes of ads, mostly unskippable, over the course of a 15 minute video. I don’t know how people deal with that shit.
Man, they must LOVE people like him!
Surely, he must know he’s actively contributing to the issue. No?
I would be shocked if he cared. It’s just not amongst his concerns.
Grayjay, feetube, Smartube, Newpipe etc etc…
It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…
Invidious
Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.
Where can I find more info about this .ipa?
I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.
You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done
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We’ve got a business model that didn’t even exist 25 years ago, and we’re making insane money!
How can we fuck it up?
You just gotta love the headline in the article, it’s trying to sell it as a great new feature
VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available, allowing brands to reach TV audiences with Google AI.
It is for their target audience. They’re not talking to you, they’re talking to their customers.
Oh I know, and that is sort of the point that their customers apparently hate humans
What a bad idea.
Nothing is ever enough
Line must go up!
Am I bad because I pay for YouTube? I watch it so so much on different devices and also use YouTube music instead of Spotify. The paid teir hasn’t undergone enshittification yet (it always does). Thats when ill stop.
Yeah you’re literally part of the problem lol
You’re actively funding enshittification, at least the rest of us are innocent
I’m long past the point of even considering paying Google a dime for other people’s content.
I’m getting sick of titles like these “… this changes everything…”, “scientists are mystified”, “…nobody knew…”, or some ridicoulus question as title. Majority of creators are hinting lately that yt “suggests” how to title and organize the topic for maximum visibility and monetization. In effect mandating their enshittification features.
Nvm, the moment NewPipe stops being able to play a video in a normay way is the end of yt for me. Just like I left reddit for lemmy.
Yeah damn I refuse to click on that stuff. I like the slow content which is what I’m subscribed to and is all ill watch
Nah, nothing wrong with that. The problem isn’t users, it’s what the company expects from users.
Nothing wrong with that. I pay for YouTube premium. Tbh I got fed up with all the hoops on mobile so I just started paying for it and honestly, its been a good fit for me.
I watch a ton of YouTube content so paying for it to support creators and not having ads is fine with me.
How much do they actually get from that?
According to an LTT video that broke down thier revenue about 11 months ago, 45% of your premium sub is divided among creators that you watch.
Not sure how thats calculated, but it seems to be a pretty sizable chunk according to LTT.
Skip to around 4:50 in the video
You’re not bad, google is bad.
I’d suggest already exploring alternatives now. There’s front ends, alternate links, … all with pro’s and cons.
I will say though, once you stop using an account and cut out the feed/algo out of your diet it becomes apparent very quick how much of a grip they hold on our attention just by the layout and such. Now I just check 2 channels every few days and even that’s losing my interest.
I sure like it. “Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now - I forget how bad it is and I can’t believe people live like that.
Being able to cancel Spotify was a nice bonus too.
“Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now
What do you mean? UBlock Origin kills all the YouTube ads. Not giving money to Google is perfectly fine.
That’s why they invented adblock lol
I have literally never seen a YouTube ad, I think, in my entire life. I would never pay for that experience.
I too pay for youtube because i also use music and use it in 3 separated place. Honestly it worth it for me, and it’s not as expensive even after the price hike recently. Until it gone to the shitter i’ll keep using it.
For me it became enshittified when it exceeded $10/month.
