In the USA all we have to do is tell ICE that we are not a citizen and bam, all-expenses-paid vacation at some random spot in the world.
Tip to the wise: to facilitate re-entry when you are done, simply ensure that your passport is stored securely in your <ahem> “travel wallet”.
Brave of you to assume they wouldn’t accuse you of forging the passport with some twisted logic to keep you out of the country
You wouldn’t be in jail if you weren’t a criminal right?
It’s true, if you get arrested, obviously you do crimes.
One of the greatest propaganda pieces, that is usually not perceived as such intentionally, is that anything having to do with penalties from justice systems is free. Penal justice usually do have statutes of free services, judge time and free legal counseling, but most other tribunals and also a lot of the penalties involved incur financial costs and debt into the convicted. House arrest, you either pay for the ankle tracker or a fine for the officer’s hourly pay; mandatory anger management, mental health counseling, etc, you are footing the bill; civil damages, win or lose, attorney times have to be paid; deportation, the receiving country is billed for the plane ticket, room and food during travel, which usually they pass down to you; in the US, convicts have to work in order to access anything that is not basic care (food, water and electricity), usually for slavery wages. And a long list of etceteras.
The cliché of getting yourself arrested for a misdemeanor being cheaper than paying rent and food sounds quirky fun, until the reality of fines and fees of the associated process come through. Justice systems are mostly poverty manufacturing systems.
It’s a difficult balance. Imagine you have a child that you bring with you on the plane and it being too young, cries throughout the entire flight. One action, one decision - and not by the child, obviously - impacts everyone around you.
Politicians tap into that innate sense of “hey, that’s not fair!” to deliver whatever gives themselves the highest gains. Some want to uphold the status quo, others want to improve it, still others want to tear it all down and start fresh.
Ironically what I hear most often from tankies is that they agree with how Donald Trump is doing things (since I started us talking about specifically the USA in my original comment), and want him to dial the actions up even further.
So… it gets highly complex, real quickly.
He’s not wrong. It’ll be a really shitty journey as it’s just voluntary homelessness, but you can choose to live as a hobo if you’re brave enough. And if you’re brave enough you can cross borders without permission. Not a good idea at all, lots of walking, hunger, sleeping outside, and hiding from authorities, but hey, you can.
Choosing homelessness when you have any other option isn’t brave, it’s fucking stupid.
“Homeless” can mean different things. It could mean “can’t afford a home, can’t keep a job” like the typical assumption, or it could mean “between homes but capable of getting another” or it could mean “has plenty of money but no home base, just sleeps in hotels or camps and can afford food and clothes when needed”.
It’s not a lifestyle I’d want right now, but it doesn’t automatically mean one can’t thrive. Humans were nomadic for millennia before agriculture gave us a reason and the ability to just stay in one spot.
The line that separates courage and stupidity is always very thin, be it warfare or… Checks notes… TRAVEL
Lots of people walk or bike around the world.
What’s more valuable to you? Having an experience that sounds outlandishly amazing? Or paying rent? We might not all agree.
Depends on your definition of homelessness. Living in a shitty, broken down van probably counts. But what about living in a $200k Mercedes Sprinter van converted to a camper, with a stable job that lets you work remote? What about a retired couple living in a 40’ RV, after spending their working lives dreaming about traveling around the country?
You’re not homeless if you have a 200k sprinter, also it’s not in the spirit of this post which claims that travel isn’t a matter of money.
That’s fair, but where do you draw the line?
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It’s not a choice I’d personally make, but it’s often associated with mental illness or a deep feeling of the need to be free (especially in young people). For the former it’s associated with PTSD and feeling like if you no longer fit into normal life. For the latter it’s kinda like backpacking across Europe, but across whatever continent you’re on, often staying at punk houses and squats along the way.
There are worse options.
That’s great and all but please take a few step to the left, you are blocking the sunlight
Oh, sorry Diogenes!
People do this all the time. Typically it’s people on bikes, crossing something.
$5 a day? Pure luxury!
Hitchhiking and couch surfing is a thing.
That’s just being homeless…
Nobody said it isn’t.
It is traveling and it doesn’t require lots of money.
Not if you’re doing it while traveling.
I don’t think that is “travel” in the spirit of the discussion.
It’s not travel in your (and to be honest, most people in the comments) preferred version. The OP never mentioned luxuries, or even comfort. The point is that if what you really want to travel, you most probably can, independent of your financial situation.
Yeah, I get it that s/he is technically correct. I think that was pretty clear in my statement.
My point is: it’s not technically correct, it’s just plain correct. Plenty of people I know go for cycling tours of Europe, packing food and sleeping in tents. Some do two weeks hiking.
Travel is not only flying to the other end of the world and eating fancy food cooked for you by hired chefs… you can travel basically free if you adjust your expectations.
Hobo sort of implies a migrant worker. Tramp is someone that travels about, but isn’t interested in working. Both used to be associated with freighthopping trains. Do people stowaway on trains anymore?
I have to assume some people still hop trains. At the very least some crust punk squatter types probably do
There are no trains anymore.
Then how did I get stuck at a railroad crossing today?
Only rich people say stupid shit like this.
Only stupid, rich people say stupid stuff like this.
Edit: added comma.
Have the courage to pay in other ways.
With beans?
We’re poor, not stupid. Beans are far too valuable.
Why not both
Yeah I traded a whole cow for three beans!
NOT MY MR.BEAN COLLECTION!?
My wife got rid of my Mr. Bean VHS collection
That is a tragedy.
Gas, grass, or ass. Nobody rides for free.
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Go out your front door.
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Keep walking.
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Joy.
Isn’t this the plot of LotR?
I think it depends which character you are.
Frodo and Bilbo had money tho.
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No no no, it’s the courage to leave without caring about losing all your worldly possessions 🙃
A nomadic life can be cheaper than a sedentary one.
What do you do, exactly, to earn money for food/clothes in that lifestyle? That has always puzzled me
People that wander for a living usually live by a combination of charity and payments for odd jobs. For example, a small farmer might gladly part with some old clothes and provide a few meals and a bed in exchange for help with some tasks, and I’ve heard about people with a preternatural ability to couchsurf from city to city.
A lot have taken up being digital nomads. Not a bad way to make a living off you can get good Internet access somehow.
And fit into a little RV.
It’s pretty easy to find it within a half days journey in most of the world now, most towns and cities will have public WiFi in some form.
I wish I could live like that, but medication and executive dysfunction makes it impossible. Hopefully in the future.
"SIR YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE POINTS TO FLY ON BRAVE AIRLINES, you must go to delta. "
But I earned these points flying on Spirit!
GODDAMMIT I just opened this card for the promotional courage points!
Does Brave Airlines mine Courage Coins without your consent?
Ya goddamn right it does.
Walking is free.
“But I am in America and want to tour Europe! 😩”
Swimming is also free.
Also, the strait of Bering is not that large.
who the fuck wants to tramp around russia? good way to get drone striked or sent to the front in a meatwave
Technically you can travel all your remaining life without money.
Just board the plane without paying.
Travel is great if that’s your thing. But I’ve always despised privileged entitled douchebags who use travel as a big flex, and a metric to judge others with.
How much could one courage cost? A million dollars?
Lebron must be the bravest person on Earth.
I wonder if traveling the seas is why he flops so much?
If you violate enough mobility laws you can get anywhere for free!
