Been using LibreWolf browser for a short while now, pretty great if you get rid of some of the more radical features like full data cleansing on each shutdown.
And it’s based on Firefox, not Chromium, which is pretty sweet if you ask me
Also Vanadium for my phone, came preinstalled with GrapheneOS and I have no reason to change it, it’s really good too
What’s the issue with Signal? I haven’t heard of any actual vulnerabilities from their end, just standard phishing on the user side.
There’s no issue
Unless you’re the government, then the issue is just that it works
Unless you dont know how group chats work and add random journalists.
But… but I declared that we were clean on opsec!
You’re glowing
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Obligatory fuck brave. What’s wrong with nord exactly?
NordVPN is good for getting around geoblocks, not so much for privacy
What’s wrong with Brave?
It’s backed by fascist psychopath Peter Thiel and it, at least for a long time, promoted a crypto scam as a main browser feature.
First time I hear of this. What alternatives would you suggest? I have brave on my PC because it’s pre-configured and comes with a Tor addon
Waterfox/Librewolf/Zen Browser for normal browsing and Tor Browser for Tor. Ungoogled Chromium if you absolutely have to use chrome.
Any idea how helium stacks up against ungoogled chrome
Additionally to the other two replies, Brave also injected referral IDs to an URI when you directly typed it in. Allegedly it was a mistake and they put it behind a toggle:
- Article: https://www.technewsworld.com/story/brave-browser-caught-redirecting-urls-for-cash-86701.html
- Their blog: https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/
Also, per default the new tab page shows advertisements in the background. Firefox does also show ads on the new tab page in the link grid, so it’s a bad thing both do and you can disable it on both. But with an almost-full-window sized ad Brave managed to make that worse still.
Aside from the homophobia, Brave also runs an ad network. I am skeptical about their privacy claims when they profit off the data to sell ads.
Essentially nothing. People on here tend to be alarmist when it comes to it, but when you actually dig into the negative claims, they are all either vastly overblown or misconstrued.
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Not sure why you deleted this but I just found out Mullvad doesn’t support open VPN which is a deal breaker for me because I use a few different apps via docker with their traffic routed through https://hub.docker.com/r/qmcgaw/gluetun
Also, maybe a deal breaker for some is they don’t do port forwarding any more (well, for a long time now).
Someone else already talked about mulvad. But you can use wireguard with gluetun, but the configuration is a little annoying as you need to download the configuration file and grab the key from inside the file.
Thanks. Will keep that in mind. I’ve spent too much on VPNs recently but when I near subscription lapse(s) I will strongly consider Mullvad.
From what I saw on others VPNs it’s not the cheapest but it’s also not the most expensive but mulvad puts those money to use for the community for both privacy and security, check their blog for more
Gotcha. I made the mistake of signing up for years on a meh VPN because it was cheap. Then after some issues I started a trial of Nord. It was better so I wish hadn’t subscribed to the other one for so long, since I probably wasted at least $100 on that fiasco.
I use Mullvad with Gluetun, works fine? I am currently using docker compose and container network mode for routing traffic through it
Ah that’s good to know. I think it may offer support via wire guard or something.
It does yes.
Gluetun works with wireguard configs.
lol Brave respect from ML
best browser in the world right now
If you like fascism and crypto
I don’t know much about Nord’s quality as a service, but I know that they really spearheaded the effort to spread misinformation on how Internet security works (claiming that a VPN would protect the information you enter into a website when HTTPS already does that) via YouTube ad reads. That alone is enough to make me swear off ever using them.
Also they’re spending just wayyyyy too much on advertising for my taste.
Lots of VPNs are actually owned by one company, like Nordvpn and surfshark are both owned by Nord security, lemme find the list…
I’m under the impression https can be defeated by a man-in-the-middle attack if you’re not paying attention. Haven’t looked into it recently to be sure if that’s still the case or a solved issue, though. But that was one reason to use a VPN while on untrusted wifi, supposedly.
if you are using http yes, any modern website uses https, in most cases vpn will at least prevent dns hijacking (since unecrypted dns is still the default)
No, I’m definitely talking about https. Could be this is no longer a thing tho, I need to look it up.
afaik there is some metadata leak with https unless you use ECH which most websites do not support
I think I was thinking of situations where the wifi owner redirects you to their impersonation site with their own cert, but a normal browser will pop up a big warning about that. Also if the site properly uses HSTS and you’ve been there on that machine before, then you’re protected from being directed to a http impersonation site. A VPN will protect you from both (assuming the VPN us trustworthy), but if you’re savvy you don’t need it. But then the type of person who needs the kind of simplified explanation for “why VPN” that you get in ads is not savvy.
Urgh. I use Mullvad, it’s just 5€ per month and so far works great. I hope there’s nothing bad I don’t know about it. lol
They are the only VPN company with a clean record but personally only VPN I would trust is onion, garlic etc. kind of networks.
How do you define “with a clean record”?
Yes, Google Chrome installs AI locally
without consentautomatically, Brave forces you to use their cloud services.… and Brave is also basically a marketing scam
Consent? What’s that, huh?
Can you tell me more about brave and what you mean?
When you launch Brave for the first time, it will push a lot of services like Brave News, Brave AI, their video call platform etc., all cloud services. Technically, they’re all open source, but I wouldn’t trust them. They have released a separate version, though, which keeps all this things disabled, which is paid on every platform except Linux builds.
Still, Brave is a whole lot better than Chrome, but I wouldn’t trust either.
Brave was created by an anti LGBT asshole
And an advertisement company
Do you know the stance of the Firefox (or other browser) creators on LGBT rights?
Yeah, Firefox fired the anti-lgbtq asshole when his donations came to light. So then he went and founded Brave.
So they fired one anti-LGBT person when he became high-profile (CEO). What about everyone else?
What is it you’re looking for us to validate?
Well I hung out with Mitchell Baker and she seemed pretty chill.
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You can do better than chrome with Edge. That way two companies are keeping your data secure instead of just one!
Yk what thank you, there’s always room for improvement
I find this to be 100% accurate and every one should follow this guide to maximize their security
whats wrong w Nordvpn
Way too expensive, the clients are proprietary except for the Linux one, and the amount of sponsorships they do just make them look more suspicious than anything.
How is NordVPN expensive? I had it for almost 3 years and turned out to be about US$2.80 per month for me.

Ah, wait, you’re right. I never saw that because I usually get services for 1 or 2 years. Those a ridiculously high prices man. Damn!
It’s a corporation. It is inherently not private. Your government will always be able to get its data. NSA can be presumed to log its activity, whether or not the corporation itself does.
Nord was headquartered in Panama specifically so they wouldn’t have to comply with data requests by intelligence agencies.
Not sure on their current status though.
whats the one above nordvpn?
its obscura, basicly mullvad with a relay for making it impossible to log who you are, if i understand correctly
i also didn’t know what it was credit
Just use mullvad vpn
That’s not an aswer though.
That is an answer, maybe not an answer you wanted, but still an answer.
Nope. It’s a response, but it’s not an answer.
Now you’ve got me wondering 🤣
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